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The Elite "Have No Idea" - Society Is Near The Breaking Point
Zero Hedge ^ | October 14, 2016 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 10/17/2016 11:46:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: DungeonMaster

The people you’re talking about were at war with another country. The people in this country are near war with their own government. Totally different. A lot of it is just talk, of course, but people are really getting fed up.

And as an aside, the Germans kept fighting for 2 more years after Hamburg was firebombed. The Allies gave most German cities the same treatment over the next 2 years.


21 posted on 10/17/2016 12:06:41 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Steely Tom

I think they know. I also think they believe they can handle the problem using industrialized methods.

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They figure they can pick up the phone and call the police or the military for protection. Then I think of the police officers executed in Dallas, and the military which is now forced to do sex change operations.


22 posted on 10/17/2016 12:07:09 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Mouton

We’ve off shored way more manufacturing jobs than automated them away. Automation is good AS LONG AS THE FACTORY STAYS IN THE USA.


23 posted on 10/17/2016 12:07:47 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Steely Tom

Might work in China or Argentina, but we’re armed.


24 posted on 10/17/2016 12:08:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There will be a secession of a state or group of states again. Will this lead to war? I don’t think so.


25 posted on 10/17/2016 12:11:13 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cboldt
"I agree. I think they know, and I think they drove it here on purpose. But it is in their interest to have plausible deniability to the accusation that the politicians have deliberately destabilized things, so “industrialized methods” can be justified."

Obama has spent 8 years deconstructing and reconstructing the military and domestic security agencies for just such an eventuality. November 8 is the ballot box, after that...? A divided citizenry, no matter how massively armed with rifles and pistols will not prevail against military units and gunships. If Hillary wins, we are going to be faced with stark choices.

26 posted on 10/17/2016 12:11:25 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article makes some good points, but the smarter elites have refuges in protected or wilderness areas. They are preppers but do not advertise it. And their preps outdo the average prepper because of their wealth.


27 posted on 10/17/2016 12:12:16 PM PDT by matt1234 (The alt-right is the left's Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: central_va

It is always better to have the factory here but IMO having less people working is not a good thing. I am not anti automation, just noting something I think is important in the overall conversation. The Zero hedge article says more than I ever could but does incorporate much on my mind.


28 posted on 10/17/2016 12:12:42 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: matt1234

What is that, maybe 1% or 3% of them?


29 posted on 10/17/2016 12:13:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Might work in China or Argentina, but we’re armed.

for the time being


30 posted on 10/17/2016 12:13:44 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Mouton

...Might work in China or Argentina, but we’re armed.

for the time being...

we are also armed with the knowledge of what WILL happen if we give our arms up.


31 posted on 10/17/2016 12:15:23 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good article.


32 posted on 10/17/2016 12:16:56 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe (For every Allende, there is a Pinochet)
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To: Mouton

What force in the world would be able to go door-to-door across a continent and confiscate weapons from so many households? If somehow every soldier and policeman on Earth were instantly transported to this country it wouldn’t be nearly enough. If only 10% of the population resisted that’s 33 million armed people.


33 posted on 10/17/2016 12:19:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Truth29; Cboldt

We only have ten Army and two Marine divisions left. That is nowhere near enough troops and equipment to placate a wide-spread population of 330 million people, especially armed ones. Missiles cost lots of money and there are only so many of them.


34 posted on 10/17/2016 12:21:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't forget who has a long fuse, but does have a fuse: God. The abortion rights movement used to be led by women such as Kate Michelman, whose personal abortion story was that she and her three small children were abandoned by her husband when she was pregnant and that she had an abortion because she was broke and desperate. These circumstances don't make abortion objectively morally right — and who knows whether the details of the story are accurate — but at least she was a woman you felt sorry for, even if you believe abortion is gravely wrong. Well, it's 2016, and the head of Planned Parenthood is Cecile Richards. Her abortion story is quite different. As she told Katie Couric, she was married, had three children she and her husband adored, but they just didn't want a fourth, so she had an abortion, “which just wasn't a big deal”. (Richards didn't mention finances, but she couldn't have been too strapped: her mother, Ann Richards either was, or was on her way to being, the Governor of Texas.)

My point is that, forty years after Roe v. Wade, abortion has gone from being illegal and rare, to (supposedly) “safe, legal, and rare”, to something “one in three American women has”, which is “no big deal”. Since the Bible tells us that “God is not mocked”, we must ask...how much longer will His hand be stayed?

35 posted on 10/17/2016 12:21:18 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: ozzymandus
The people you’re talking about were at war with another country. The people in this country are near war with their own government. Totally different. A lot of it is just talk, of course, but people are really getting fed up.

Well that's just it, "at war" vs "near war". Political disagreement is pretty trivial compared to bombs.

And as an aside, the Germans kept fighting for 2 more years after Hamburg was firebombed. The Allies gave most German cities the same treatment over the next 2 years.

Yes. The video I was watching was focused on the whole idea of fighting a war with bombs. It was thought that you couldn't win by bombing and the English general, or was he a civilian, in charge said "well it's never been tried before and we shall see".

Very good study for a perspective on the petty race bating and bathroom bating that occupies the populous today.

36 posted on 10/17/2016 12:21:57 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.)
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To: central_va

I agree. But I believe the states will have factions within them that will make it all even more deadly. The huge cities (LA, NY, etc.) will not be able to feed their populations and it will move into the suburbs and countryside. And that is when they will realize they are not prepared. Country folk are armed and more likely to kill for a cause they truly believe in.
Many on both sides will perish. But I have faith that the Alt Left will lose.


37 posted on 10/17/2016 12:22:00 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They have been insulated from the consequences of their actions by the establishment. So, time to stick a fork in the establishment, and find out whether these folks understand what the rest of us are experiencing.


38 posted on 10/17/2016 12:22:39 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: Talisker

I have lately come to believe that, as old as I am, I will yet live to witness the end of this country. I cannot say whether a Clinton win or a Trump win will trigger it, but I feel, more than see, the end approaching. On the other hand maybe it already has ended , but we haven’t noticed yet; little is left of the institutions and the society was born into just after WWII.


39 posted on 10/17/2016 12:24:17 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The commies and islamonazis have provoked a rage in the American people - -a rage the likes of Hillary and Obama and Kerry and pelosi and Reid will not be able to overcome or contain. Not by a long shot. Either mr. trump is able to clean the scum
Out of Washington DC or -— or I’m glad I may not be around to see the American people finally do it for themselves.


40 posted on 10/17/2016 12:25:31 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero. news)
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