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RED ALERT — Get ready for a 'severe fall' in the stock market, HSBC says
Business Insider ^ | 10/12/16 | Bob Bryan

Posted on 10/12/2016 6:49:29 PM PDT by Enlightened1

HSBC's technical-analysis team has thrown up the ultimate warning signal.

In a note to clients released Wednesday, Murray Gunn, the head of technical analysis for HSBC, said he had become on "RED ALERT" for an imminent sell-off in stocks given the price action over the past few weeks.

Gunn uses a type of technical analysis called the Elliott Wave Principle, which tracks alternating patterns in the stock market to discern investors' behavior and possible next moves.

In late September, Gunn said the stock market's moves looked eerily similar to those just before the 1987 stock market crash. Citi's Tom Fitzpatrick also highlighted the market's similarities to the 1987 crash just a few days ago. On September 30, Gunn said stocks were under an "orange alert," as they looked to him as if they had topped out.

And now, given the 200-point decline for the Dow on Tuesday, Gunn thinks the drop is here.

"With the US stock market selling off aggressively on 11 October, we now issue a RED ALERT," Gunn said in the note. "The fall was broad-based and the Traders Index (TRIN) showed intense selling pressure as the market moved to the lows of the day. The VIX index, a barometer of nervousness, has been making a series of higher lows since August."

Gunn said the selling would truly set in if the Dow Jones Industrial Average were to fall below 17,992 or if the S&P 500 were to dip under 2,116. The Dow closed at 18,128 on Tuesday, while the S&P settled at 2,136.

"As long as those levels remain intact, the bulls still have a slight hope," Gunn said.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1987; 201609; 20160930; 201610; dow; dowjones; elliottwave; elliottwaveprinciple; fud; gunn; hsbc; market; murraygunn; orangealert; redalert; stock; threat; trin; vix; warning
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1 posted on 10/12/2016 6:49:29 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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Not being helped by the blazingly strong USD. Dollar strength has been insane last few days.


2 posted on 10/12/2016 6:50:54 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I had a cool idea for a new tagline and I forgot it!)
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To: Enlightened1

For long term 401k investors under 55, it makes no sense to try and time the moving of funds, in my opinion.

Through all the ups and downs i think it is still averaging 7 percent a year.

Remember when the dow was a few thousand :)


3 posted on 10/12/2016 6:55:03 PM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Enlightened1

HSBC, that’s the dope bank where Jessica Lynch had Comey installed as a director until his FBI door opened up.

More propaganda.


4 posted on 10/12/2016 6:55:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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5 posted on 10/12/2016 6:56:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

It’s circular and self fulfilling. The dollar rises, stocks fall, further strengthening the dollar, which puts additional pressure on stocks. Thing is, this is LONG overdue.


6 posted on 10/12/2016 6:56:53 PM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: Vendome

Getting ready to dump the market when Trump wins?


7 posted on 10/12/2016 6:57:36 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale FL (zombie land). TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: dp0622

I agree with you.

Over the long haul things average out.

The market can’t and won’t go up forever.

Frankly, I have no idea how the market rose this high in light of the economic stagnation and unemployment.


8 posted on 10/12/2016 6:59:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (27 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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To: Enlightened1

and oc course, the incoming Democratic President will need a blank check to “fix” everything...again.


9 posted on 10/12/2016 6:59:31 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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I remember when the Dow broke a thousand for the first time, but that was long ago and far away.
10 posted on 10/12/2016 6:59:38 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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11 posted on 10/12/2016 7:00:44 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: hinckley buzzard

What’s worse-Business Insider or Gateway Pundit. I gotta know.


12 posted on 10/12/2016 7:01:28 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Me too.

I also remember my father losing everything following this technical analysis crash-any-minute crap in the 90s, when the momentary success of the tech boom was there for all to see....


13 posted on 10/12/2016 7:03:38 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: DoughtyOne
Printed money, lots of it, and no where to put it that is getting any type of return, but the market, so stuff looks good, and the more it is bought, the more the cost goes up.

The average savings, of those who have any has dropped more than 50% due to the dilution with more paper.

Currently, the next best place is paying down debt, saves on the interest charged, but it is not sexy, and with minimal risk, far less volatility, and possible profits, for those who like the risk.

14 posted on 10/12/2016 7:05:16 PM PDT by going hot
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To: hinckley buzzard

I remember back in the mid-60s when the DJIA was approaching 1,000 and everyone was itching to see it break through, but it fell back and didn’t break it until Nov. 1972. Then it dropped back down and didn’t break it again until Nov. 1980. Anyone recall what happened in those two months aside from the DJIA?


15 posted on 10/12/2016 7:05:36 PM PDT by chimera
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To: dp0622

We’re still earning 5- 5.5 percent on stocks.
Mutal funds are doing less but they have most of our investments.


16 posted on 10/12/2016 7:06:27 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Enlightened1

I’m short the market, but certainly not based on Elliot Wave Theory. Folks like HSBC have ‘way too much to gain by leading people around with their “predictions.”


17 posted on 10/12/2016 7:06:43 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: hinckley buzzard
I remember when the Dow broke a thousand for the first time, but that was long ago and far away.

Ditto...Carrie Fisher was smokin' hot.

18 posted on 10/12/2016 7:07:20 PM PDT by lightman (I'm nobody special...just a follower of the siren call of the Ison.)
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To: going hot
Printed money, lots of it, and no where to put it... but the market...and the more it is bought, the more the cost goes up.

Bingo. A recipe for a big fat bubble.

19 posted on 10/12/2016 7:10:20 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: Enlightened1

Bears watching. Some if’s there.


20 posted on 10/12/2016 7:10:36 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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