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AP FACT CHECK: Clinton says the US is energy independent
AP (WBOC.com) ^ | Oct. 10, 2016

Posted on 10/10/2016 5:11:07 PM PDT by Colofornian

WASHINGTON (AP) - A claim from the second presidential debate and how it stacks up with the facts:

CLINTON: "We are now, for the first time ever, energy independent."

THE FACTS: Clinton overstates the case. For the first time in decades the United States gets more energy domestically than it imports, but it is not yet entirely energy independent. Oil still is imported, from the Mideast and elsewhere. Estimates vary as to when the U.S. might achieve full energy independence.

(Excerpt) Read more at wboc.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: clinton; debate; energyindependent; trump
Overstated?

Mistaken?

(Or lied?)

1 posted on 10/10/2016 5:11:07 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

That was her “public” stance on the subject.


2 posted on 10/10/2016 5:19:44 PM PDT by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: Colofornian

H->! is Energy Independent, though on the Saudi payroll.


3 posted on 10/10/2016 5:20:09 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: Colofornian

The improvement is due to policies she and her fellow liberals opposed and said wouldn’t work.


4 posted on 10/10/2016 5:22:17 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Colofornian

It really depends on what “energy” you are talking about.

The phrase “energy independent” is silly. It does not refer to energy really, simply to petroleum, with very minor exceptions (West Coast Canadian natural gas for instance).

The US has always been “energy independent” in power generation and industrial fuels like coal/coke.

It has imported petroleum and its distillates extensively since the 1970’s when domestic production fell below consumption, and thats all the term has meant ever since.

The US still isn’t self-sufficient in petroleum, but its down to about 40% the peak rate of imports.
Net petroleum imports -

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m


5 posted on 10/10/2016 5:24:38 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

we are not energy independent and the fracking that is being done so it might look like she had a leg to stand on, by lying and stretching, is being done against the will of obama and hillary. they will take the credit for what they opposed from the get go, and still oppose.


6 posted on 10/10/2016 5:29:13 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: buwaya

Thank you.

I have always questioned the popular notion that the US can be “energy independent” in the same sense that politicians routinely feed us the term. Inasmuch as “energy”, in all its forms, is produced by private providers (including publicly held corporations) and delivered to global or regional markets, the concept of energy independence is indeed silly. Depending on the spot market for energy, it can often make great sense to import petroleum or natural gas from off-shore sources.


7 posted on 10/10/2016 5:52:51 PM PDT by T. Rustin Noone (the angels wanna wear my red shoes......)
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To: Colofornian

We are doing well indeed, no thanks to Hillary or Hussein.

Private sector ingenuity and industry (fracking) gets the credit. In Hillary’s language, “greed” wins again. If H&H had had their way, fracking would have been stopped in the name of environmentalism. It would have happened too - with a Democratic Congress.


8 posted on 10/10/2016 6:38:00 PM PDT by ChessExpert (It's not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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To: Colofornian

nobody cares


9 posted on 10/10/2016 6:44:12 PM PDT by RockyTx
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Overstated?!

We consume almost 20 million barrels per day and we produce just over 10. It’s on the EIA website.

That’s like saying it’s overstating that the Jets beat the Steelers when they lost 31-13.


10 posted on 10/10/2016 6:46:43 PM PDT by grayhog
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