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Black Voters are turning from Clinton to Trump (new poll)
New York Post ^ | 18 Sept 2016 | Mary Kay Linge

Posted on 09/18/2016 4:53:43 AM PDT by 11th_VA

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To: Biggirl

Are you sure?

I see more folks who would support the Dem frontrunner stay home because Hillary is NOT LIKED.
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They won’t stay home. At the end of the day they’ll vote to keep the freebies coming.


41 posted on 09/18/2016 8:00:16 AM PDT by LydiaLong
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To: 11th_VA

Trump is winning over more black voters than any recent GOP candidate... a record.

Democrats dimly realize this, which why they’re playing the race card early. It isn’t working.

Hillary is done.


42 posted on 09/18/2016 8:02:42 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Eleutheria5

Obama may be sorry he gave them all free smart phones. Now they have all seen Hillary’s collapse for themselves. They can see Tweets that refute Democrats lies. The can watch YouTube vids of blacks who have escaped the Dem plantation.


43 posted on 09/18/2016 8:07:57 AM PDT by weston (SO HERE'S THE STORY: As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Uncle Sam 911

Unions, particularly the trade unions, in the north kept blacks out the highest paying jobs for years. Few writers ever mention this. From very early the black slaves learned the trades on the plantations and carried on plying their skills in the hated south.


44 posted on 09/18/2016 8:17:55 AM PDT by monocle
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To: AbolishCSEU

White people voted for Obozo to shrive themselves of racism. Blacks, having seen a black man ascend to the highest office, no longer believe that they will be held back. Thus, whites are freed of a guilt trip, and blacks are freed of feeling doors are closed to them. Other than supporting Arab Sproing, ISIS and a nuclear Iran, and screwing Israel over as much as he could get away with, and doing nothing good for the economy and plenty bad, and nationalizing health non-care, Obama’s presidency was a shining success./s


45 posted on 09/18/2016 8:32:30 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: 11th_VA
And this is why Hillary REIGNITED THE BIRTHER ISSUE and got those Black Caucus members to RANT about Trump outside on the sidewalk.

100% scripted in response to Trump's rising favorability with the black community.

46 posted on 09/18/2016 8:52:38 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: BroJoeK; LydiaLong; VRW Conspirator
LydiaLong:
“Wishful thinking.”
VRW Conspirator:
"Hillary is weak!”
Before FDR in 1932 a large majority of African-Americans voted Republican.
As recently as Nixon in 1960 nearly a third still voted Republican.
Since the 60s civil rights movements 90% or more blacks have voted Democrat.

If Trump really does get 20%, that will be the highest since... well, Nixon in 1960.

According to
Nixon:
A Life
(which was written by a British MP), there were a number of things that went wrong for Nixon in 1960 . . . I can’t recite them all, but I think there were five that the book listed. One of which was that Nixon seriously injured his knee during the campaign, badly enough to have put him, and another was that Eisenhower disappointed Nixon by failing to invest any of his political capital in baking Nixon’s election campaign. If you look at your chart at #14, you will see that Dewy in 1948 and Eisenhower in 1952 got a percentage of the negro - as it would have been politely referred to a the time - vote that modern Republican POTUS candidates would have rejoiced over - in most cases, all the way to the White House.

But if you notice, in 1956 Eisenhower got even more of the negro vote than that - about a third - and Democrat Adlai Stevenson drew less than two thirds. It was not widely publicized at the time, but Eisenhower deserved every bit of the black support he got in 1956. He had desegregated Washington DC, for one thing - and for another, the economy was pretty good.

Losing Ground:
American Social Policy, 1950-1980
- Charles Murray
gives the reader the understanding that there was real economic progress of blacks into the middle class - progress which was stalled very effectively by the “Great Society.” In that context, the 1960 election was a negative watershed for black America. Although Nixon did get a better percentage of the black vote than any Republican has gotten since, the Republican share of the vote did not go up, but down from 1956 to 1960. 1960 was a razor-thin defeat for Nixon and the Republican Party; had Nixon gotten the same proportion of the black vote as Eisenhower got in 1956 he would have won. And the whole history of politics and race in the past half-century would have been different.

An awful lot of angst might have been avoided.


47 posted on 09/18/2016 8:54:06 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: No Socialist
OF COURSE IT IS!

NO doubt about that. Hillary called her media puppets and off to the 'races' they went. It's OBVIOUS why the birther issue just suddenly came out of nowhere again. Hillary is scared sh*tless about Trump stealing her black voter base.

48 posted on 09/18/2016 8:54:19 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Bottom line, they don’t need no protectress, so they don’t need Hill.


49 posted on 09/18/2016 9:00:09 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: LydiaLong
Partially true, but if 20% of them stay home due to lack of motivation for Hillary, she is in trouble. I am more worried about the FLOOD of illegals she and the DHS will be shipping to the polls in unmarked white vans and the poll officials will be POWERLESS to stop them from voting.

Remember, Hillary has the full force and power of the current REGIME, including all agencies and officials behind her in this election. How do you think 0dungheap won in 2012? Was it because of all of his successes or something?

50 posted on 09/18/2016 9:03:15 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: LydiaLong

Wishful thinking.


We shall see. But there is no denying the black/hispanic dynamic is real. Neither group likes the other.


51 posted on 09/18/2016 9:35:42 AM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

And this is why Hillary REIGNITED THE BIRTHER ISSUE and got those Black Caucus members to RANT about Trump outside on the sidewalk.
100% scripted in response to Trump’s rising favorability with the black community.


The birther astroturf nonsense reminds me of the birth control questions Romney mysteriously started getting from media. Obvious Clinton campaign operation here.


52 posted on 09/18/2016 9:37:21 AM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: 11th_VA
White liberal elites are turning up the heat on the black community...

The new meme is Trump dissed all blacks by his endless birther positions (less than an hour was spend on this in the last 5 years... ) and it's never been BROUGHT UP BY TRUMP AT ANY OF HIS POLITICAL RALLIES...

White liberal elites and their overseers in the black community will pound this issue out to show only 'Hillary Cares'...

53 posted on 09/18/2016 9:41:02 AM PDT by GOPJ ("..unbridled ambition, greedy...with a husband still dicking bimbos at home"-Colin Powell on Clinton)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
conservatism_IS_compassion: "...there was real economic progress of blacks into the middle class - progress which was stalled very effectively by the “Great Society.”
In that context, the 1960 election was a negative watershed for black America."

Agreed.
Eisenhower's 1956 percent of black votes was the highest since Hoover in 1928 or any time since.
And eight years later, Goldwater's 1964 percentage was the lowest until Obama's 2008 campaign.
Goldwater was the first Republican ever to carry the Deep South, but the price paid was almost total loss of African-American Republican voters.

If Trump can both carry the Deep South and win over some black voters, it will be a political miracle slightly comparable to our Master walking on water (see Matthew 14:22-33).
That's a bit much to ask of any normal human being.

54 posted on 09/18/2016 10:45:53 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: LydiaLong
Wishful thinking.

Passionately hoping that every single one of you keep continue to tell yourselves that.

The November 8 tears will be beyond delicious.

55 posted on 09/18/2016 12:42:17 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: LydiaLong

I tend to agree. Gimmedats are still alive and well.


56 posted on 09/18/2016 1:45:46 PM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of CS paid is inversely proportionate to Mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: 11th_VA
IEDs in New York City can't be helping the Democrats here.

Black people don't like terrorist attacks here in the U.S., either.

57 posted on 09/18/2016 2:21:54 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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