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The Fall of Rome-Are there Lessons to be Learned?
American Minute with Bill Federer ^ | by Bill Federer

Posted on 09/04/2016 4:18:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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1 posted on 09/04/2016 4:18:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson; SJackson; Nachum

No border control against barbarians? Check.
Wine, women, and song? Check.
No agriculture and no (internal) manufacturing jobs? Check.
Corrupt military appointed by the senate/emperor? Check.
Corrupt Senate? Check.
Ineffective opposition party? Check.
Bread, blood and circuses? Check.


2 posted on 09/04/2016 4:22:34 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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3 posted on 09/04/2016 4:23:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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Bump.


4 posted on 09/04/2016 4:24:39 PM PDT by Fungi (Fungi are more a part of your life than you realize.)
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Article makes too much sense.

It will be dismissed by those who need to read it and understand it the most.


5 posted on 09/04/2016 4:25:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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Excellent piece. I bet you would enjoy the historical drama Rome (TV series)

The first season depicts Julius Caesar's civil war of 49 BC against the traditionalist conservative faction in the Roman Senate (the Optimates), his rise to dictatorship over Rome, and his fall, spanning the time from the end of his Gallic Wars (52 BC or 701 ab urbe condita) until his assassination on 15 March 44 BC (the infamous Ides of March). Against the backdrop of these cataclysmic events, we also see the early years of the young Octavian, who is destined to become Augustus, the first Emperor of Rome.
6 posted on 09/04/2016 4:26:30 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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“Those who are ignorant of history are bound to repeat it.” And you can scarcely get more ignorant that the coming generation. Exhibit A: “Water’s World” on Fox News.


7 posted on 09/04/2016 4:26:55 PM PDT by txrefugee
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Great article, but worthless without Picts.
8 posted on 09/04/2016 4:28:49 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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“The Wheels on the Bus Go Round and Round....” - George Santayana


9 posted on 09/04/2016 4:30:34 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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Salient stuff; thanks, Jim.


10 posted on 09/04/2016 4:31:08 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Fatherless violence is the problem; think about the double meaning.)
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The Roman economy was based on plunder.

Once they stopped conquering they ran out of gold and slaves and only had land to use to pay their armies that were increasingly composed of foreigners.

Still it lasted 500 years in the west and 1500 in the east.

And the people living under their lash weren’t sad to see them go.


11 posted on 09/04/2016 4:32:09 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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The Western half of the Roman Empire suffered rapid depopulation and collapse by the end of the fifth century.

The Eastern half survived because it was more populated, had sufficient resources on hand to sustain itself and the imperial bureaucracy assured the life and safety of the citizens.

Civilizations can decline and die. Both Oswald Spengler and Arnold Toynbee wrote extensively about the subject.

Today, the West is in decline. What might replace it cannot yet be foreseen.


12 posted on 09/04/2016 4:36:06 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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When Valerian was appointed censor because Rome had fallen morally and ethically...that was the turning point for Rome (circa 252-3 AD). The decline of values and morals in Rome is the reason Decius pushed Valerian to become Censor of Rome (the Senate actually selected him).

Rome was already rotting from within.

This is what happens to timbers and nations. They rot from within.

The Christian nation (the remnant within nations), scattered though it is among the "nations" of the world, will not rot.

It is founded on solid rock...which cannot rot.

13 posted on 09/04/2016 4:37:38 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Einstein: I live in that solitude which is painful in youth, but delicious in the years of maturity)
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Trick question?


14 posted on 09/04/2016 4:39:27 PM PDT by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)
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THE FALL OF ROME was a culmination of external and internal factors.


Ours will be the same but different..............


15 posted on 09/04/2016 4:41:25 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Greg Hunter interviews Warren Pollock about the US being in a twilight zone of pre-collapse just like ancient Rome.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zX5JCC4aO4k


16 posted on 09/04/2016 4:43:34 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: goldstategop
Christ and His followers will replace it.

You can see its courage in our armed forces, most of whom come from small towns and red cities.

Have courage. Victory is on our side.

Christ is our salvation. He is the Jewish Messiah.

And we who follow Him are Jews (either by heritage or adoption).

17 posted on 09/04/2016 4:43:58 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Einstein: I live in that solitude which is painful in youth, but delicious in the years of maturity)
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We desperately need a President Trump!


18 posted on 09/04/2016 4:44:03 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Bookmark


19 posted on 09/04/2016 4:45:54 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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"At FreedomFest, Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks, also argued that America could soon collapse like Rome did. 'The parallels are quite ominous - the debt, the expansionist foreign policy, the arrogance of executive power taking over our country,' says Kibbe. 'But I do think we have a chance to...alert people to the danger in imperial Washington and try to fight it...'

The arrogance of executive power.....(Trump saw this coming) years ago...he has not changed his stance very much.... Bill Federer gives a clear reason for a man like Donald Trump to step in.....

Thanks Jim for posting this.....read and now printed out, adult beverage in hand 'tis the evenings read.

20 posted on 09/04/2016 4:49:03 PM PDT by yoe (BLM= BENGHAZI LIVES MATTERED.....)
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