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Reports: Tesla Model S bursts into flames during test drive in France
www.mlive.com ^ | updated August 16, 2016 at 8:45 AM | By David Muller

Posted on 08/16/2016 10:11:48 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: PAR35

If subsidies were that important to Tesla they would have concentrated on the lower end of the market where subsidies make up a higher percentage of the price.

And for all you know, car fires occur at a much higher rate in internal combustion cars than Teslas.


81 posted on 08/16/2016 1:29:52 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Red Badger

Did the “Run for you lives!” warning light come on?


82 posted on 08/16/2016 1:48:11 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill TWITTER !! Kill FACEBOOK !! Free MILO !!)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I'm sure it did!.............

83 posted on 08/16/2016 1:50:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: Moonman62

Anyone that has ever owned an old VW Bug knows that fer sure!..............


84 posted on 08/16/2016 1:51:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: Red Badger

My dad had a VW bug convertible that I got to drive a lot. It didn’t catch on fire but you could see the street through the back floor. He bought it used, kept it for some time, and sold it for more than he paid for it.


85 posted on 08/16/2016 3:51:46 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Moonman62

Let’s see - 3 fires in a few weeks in 2013 out of fewer than 15,000 then on the road. (Kent, WA, Mexico, Tennessee).

Burned a garage in Irvine, California (2013)

Burned the garage as well as the car in 2014 (Toronto)

Caught fire while charging in Norway. (2016)

Caught fire while accelerating in France. (2016)

No telling how many others have been covered up by Tesla’s notorious non-disclosure agreements. (The Toronto guy appears to have refused Tesla’s money, and that may be why we know about that one.)

They sold roughly 107,000 through December, 2015, and they sold another 12,420 Model S cars in the first quarter of 2016. If they are able to keep up a rate of 4000 a month, they should be at about 140,000 at this point.

In any event, a used 2015 looks like the best bet.


86 posted on 08/16/2016 4:51:49 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Red Badger

So I guess that drive clinched the sale. /s


87 posted on 08/16/2016 6:10:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: bert

#blackteslasmatter


88 posted on 08/16/2016 6:12:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: lacrew

ford had poor electrical’systems before they partnered up with mazda beginning in the early 1990s. they are great now.


89 posted on 08/16/2016 6:15:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PAR35

I’d say that fires are roughly the same between ICE vehicles and electric vehicles based on the following article:

http://insideevs.com/number-of-fire-related-deaths-per-year-caused-by-evs/

Excerpts from article:

According to the U.S Federal Highway Administration data, roughly 2,980 billion miles were driven, on average, per year on U.S. roads during this period. Roughly 90 highway vehicle fires and 0.15 highway vehicle fire deaths were reported per billion miles driven.

The 50,000+ Chevrolet Volts now have over 390,000,000+ electric miles and 625,000,000+ total miles driven, the 100,000+ Nissan LEAFs now have over 420,000,000+ electric miles driven, and the 30,000+ Tesla Model S sedans have over 125,000,000+ miles driven. With the remaining Ford Energi series, Toyota PiP and other combined plug-in models, we are well over one billion electric miles driven.

With these new so-called experimental vehicles, we have nowhere near the 90 vehicle fires per billion miles caused in ICEs, no deaths, and nowhere near the fire related injuries.

As for the five Model S fires in question, the true cause of one is still under investigation, but with well over 125,000,000 Tesla miles, we would still need 11 Tesla fires to equal the fires of the tried and true Internal Combustion Engine.


90 posted on 08/16/2016 6:38:03 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I dont harbor any long term resentment towards Ford...the Pinto just wasn’t their finest product.

But, since you bring up electrical systems...their 90s F150s, to include my Expedition have maddening issues with the door locks actuating randomly and the dome light not going off :(


91 posted on 08/16/2016 6:41:06 PM PDT by lacrew
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92 posted on 08/16/2016 7:39:44 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Red Badger

Perhaps the cars should be renamed in honour of Thich Quang Duc.


93 posted on 08/19/2016 7:41:31 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

What you did there............I SEE IT.........

94 posted on 08/19/2016 7:55:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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