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Texas man filmed beating turtle to death with hammer says it was self-defense
WaPo ^ | 07-27-2016 | Ben Guarino

Posted on 07/27/2016 7:32:51 AM PDT by NRx

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To: real saxophonist

Omg hahah!!
Pigeon like.. Hey what up turtle, I gonna peck ya in the.. AHHGGG!!!


21 posted on 07/27/2016 7:49:10 AM PDT by CygnusXI
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To: txrefugee

“If a man can’t dodge a “lunging” turtle, he shouldn’t be out and about.”

Have you ever seen a snapping turtle lunge? They aren’t very slow when they attack...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxHDM7eDCKI


22 posted on 07/27/2016 7:51:31 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NRx

“It was coming right at me!”

Can’t understand anybody wanting to harm a turtle (except for snapping turtles - but I leave those alone). Turtles are almost as cute in person as they are in cartoons. I’d actually take a little risk to help a turtle...


23 posted on 07/27/2016 7:52:22 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: NRx

Hmmmm, the turtle was snagged on a fishing hook/line, making said turtle rather pissed-off.

I would have to assume the “jogger” was dealing with a snapping turtle [which can grow large enough such that they cannot retract into their shell when approached]. In my experience, they can actually achieve weights near 30 pounds or more.

I also assume the jogger carried a hammer for personal protection (not just from reptiles?).

To wit, I have ^slayed^ aggressive swans on the golf course with my 9-iron. I have also kicked and struck snapping turtles from the fairway several times in my life.

I don’t care about them...I care about my physical health. Plus, they make a great stew.


24 posted on 07/27/2016 7:52:56 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: PAR35

Haven’t tried it but it must be good. It was so popular a couple centuries ago they started running short of turtles and had to invent “mock turtle soup” to satisfy demand.


25 posted on 07/27/2016 7:53:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: txrefugee

Whoo-boy! I hate it when those spry suckers lunge at me! Don’t you?! It almost as frightening as when they start flying around your head singing “I’m the steady tortoise I WILL win the race!”

Looks like this guy picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.


26 posted on 07/27/2016 7:54:14 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: NRx

I hope he gets the maximum penalty.


27 posted on 07/27/2016 7:54:40 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: fwdude

well a snapping turtle can be a hell of an adversary!

Seems like just cutting the fishing line ought to have been sufficient, but in a culture where turtles are food, I can’t imagine that this poor guy ever suspected he was doing something that would horrify the internets.


28 posted on 07/27/2016 7:59:59 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: NRx

What a jerk! If he took my animal self-defense course, he wouldn’t need a hammer, and the turtle would have been left mostly uninjured.


29 posted on 07/27/2016 8:00:12 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: NRx

I helped save a snapping turtle that was trying to cross a busy road once. He would been run over. Used a snow shovel to toss him back into the creek. I hope he lived.


30 posted on 07/27/2016 8:01:10 AM PDT by brianr10 (I'm more equal than everyone.)
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To: Boogieman

Last time I went into the local Chinese supermarket, they seemed to have plenty of live turtles swimming in the tank.


31 posted on 07/27/2016 8:01:59 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: lacrew

Turtle soup... Mmmmm, yummy!


32 posted on 07/27/2016 8:02:36 AM PDT by refermech
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To: MNDude

He should have sheltered and called 911 when attacked.


33 posted on 07/27/2016 8:03:03 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: NRx
I had a snapper take my worm and the hook in it at my sister's farm pond. First I tried to get the hook out, but that sumbitch tried to eat my de-hooker and go after my hand.

Long story short, once it was on land it turned into a true monster. I eventually succeeded in lifting him off the ground by my fishing line, which was amazingly still intact.

I put four rounds of .380 Remington "Golden Sabre" hollow points in his head at point blank range, and they completely penetrated the length of the body and exited through the shell near his tail, with no apparent result.

We finally got a shovel and turned him over on his back. Six hours later, when my brother-in-law got home from work, he was still squirming around trying to flip himself.

34 posted on 07/27/2016 8:04:46 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: mkjessup

Mr. Washington may as well have CRACKHEAD branded onto his forehead.


35 posted on 07/27/2016 8:14:11 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Marko413

“Trying to imagine a turtle lunging at him makes me think of the killer bunny from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.”


Or Jimmy Carter’s swimming killer rabbit.


36 posted on 07/27/2016 8:17:01 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

Oh good one, I had forgotten about that!


37 posted on 07/27/2016 8:22:36 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: fwdude

“Not an “animal rights” loon by any stretch, but when you are in a animal’s natural turf, assuming no aggression, we are the guests.”

No. We are the apex predators. We have a duty to conserve resources and be good stewards. Animals are not people. It degrades human life to anthropomorphise animals.

The man may have wasted resources with the turtle. He may have served as a bad example for others.

But he was not a “guest” of the turtle.


38 posted on 07/27/2016 8:26:48 AM PDT by marktwain
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No. We are the apex predators. We have a duty to conserve resources and be good stewards. Animals are not people. It degrades human life to anthropomorphise animals.

I agree, and I have no problem with anyone killing any animal for food or legitimate defense of life, property, or livestock. I hunt, I fish, and as a kid I helped slaughter animals on a friend's small farm. However, this guy - who looks as though he's one crack pipe puff away from losing his last synapse (see post #17), was clearly getting his jollies by torturing an animal. He wasn't harvesting it for food and the notion that he had to "defend himself" from it (as opposed to just cutting the line) is beyond stupid.

Animals aren't people and they don't have "rights," but anyone whose idea of fun is to inflict pain on them for its own sake is a sick individual who probably doesn't deserve rights either.

39 posted on 07/27/2016 8:34:36 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Kenton

“Six hours later, when my brother-in-law got home from work, he was still squirming around trying to flip himself.”

One of the more interesting labs in one of my neurozoology classes had us drill out the brains of turtles to study their swimming reflex. They’ll go for quite a long time if one is careful with the drill.

On another note, we were out catfishing when one of my buddies hauled up a VERY large snapper on his set line. It was so angry that even after the line was cut, it would move towards us, not the river. I’d believe the self-defense ploy if it was a snapper.


40 posted on 07/27/2016 8:49:04 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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