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Thoughts on Trump's Vice President (Whoever it May Be)

Posted on 07/13/2016 10:41:46 AM PDT by SamAdams76

Within the next 48-72 hours, we should know who Donald Trump has chosen for a running mate. Some think it will be Friday and others think it will be over the weekend. But chances are, we will know by this time on Saturday (just three days from now) as typically candidates want to maximize the convention news cycle and announcing a few days prior will help accomplish that and build some excitement leading into the convention itself.

I have no idea who Trump is going to pick but I do know this: Once the pick is made, there is sure to be much caterwauling, foot stamping and other displays of disappointment, rage and indignation.

I believe that there is no "perfect" running mate for Trump. No matter who he chooses, it is sure to be a letdown for many. I feel that many Trump supporters have built expectations so high for this running mate that there is little chance that Trump can meet them. Maybe Trump does have a surprise pick up his sleeve that has not yet been discussed but of the ones bandied about (Newt, Pence, Sessions, Christie, etc.), there is little WOW factor and will be a lot of BLAH for many.

I will support whoever Trump chooses and I will ride out the resultant storm that is sure to erupt here and elsewhere. Once the dust settles and we have the convention next week, I think we will all get on board and support this ticket as the stakes are too high.

Historically, it seems that the VP pick has always been sort of a letdown and I'm hard pressed to remember an election where the selection of VP made a material difference in the November outcome.

Sarah Palin was definitely the most exciting and "outside the box" choice of my generation. But she had the misfortune to run with McCain, already a grouchy old man with no fire in the belly to win. McCain essentially kept her bottled up and never let her find her own voice. Therefore, the media was able to define her as a lightweight right off the bat. She was to be a bright shining GOP star of the future but was never able to overcome all the media adversity. It also didn't help that unwed daughter Bristol was very much pregnant at convention time and was handled very poorly by the McCain campaign, allowing the media to have a feeding frenzy the weekend into the convention.

One piece of advice for a VP candidate: Know the title of a book you recently read and be prepared to discuss it!

In the end, I do not think Palin made a difference in the 2008 election. McCain lost it on his own. Here's a piece of advice for a presidential candidate: Never "suspend" your campaign in the final stage so that you can help solve a crisis that your party helped create.

My favorite vice president was Dick Cheney but basically they are forgettable footnotes in history. Even Cheney was butt of jokes with his "undisclosed location" meme.

Typically vice presidents that go on to be president don't go on to have successful presidencies. Harry Truman being a notable exception. But when Truman was selected in 1944 by FDR, there was definitely a major BLAH factor. For a Democrat, Truman was mostly OK in my book and is remembered today as one of our better presidents. So you never really know.

But consider this. Maybe Trump is not focused on choosing his potential successor for 2024 (or 2020) with his VP pick. Perhaps he is just looking to put some political experience on the ticket (like GWB did with Cheney) who has no desire to run for president his or herself. This will allow Trump's successor to emerge and be developed at a later time.

Feel free to chime in on who you think will get chosen but this thread isn't really about that. It's about tempering our expectations and making the best of the hand we are about to be dealt.

Here's hoping that Trump has a wild card up his sleeve for VP and really WOWS us like he did when he first announced his own candidacy in New York City just over a year ago. Who knew a year ago that we'd be where we are today! Even if Trump goes with a conventional VP, we will still have a real choice this November.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016veep; christie; flynn; gingrich; pence; runningmate; sessions; trump; veepstakes; vicepresident; vp
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1 posted on 07/13/2016 10:41:46 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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“Allowing Trump’s successor to emerge and be developed at a later time,” as George W. Bush did by picking someone like Cheney, would be a disaster if it resulted in another McCain or Romney. No thanks. Pick a real conservative, relatively young, and make him the favorite for 2020 or 2024. (Pence is 57.)


2 posted on 07/13/2016 10:49:31 AM PDT by Genoa
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I trust Mr. Trump to make the best decision, with as you stated, there being no perfect VP choice. It's obvious that Mr. Trump is giving the selection a lot of vetting and thought, and I like that part of the process is (1) surviving a one-on-one interview with a tough but fair TV reporter and (2) showing enthusiasm and and ability to convey the message at a Trump rally. We know from Celebrity Apprentice that Trump decides, and he knows what works best for what he wants to achieve.

Keeping all that in mind, Governor Pence has done way better than anyone expected. But I would NEVER place bets on trying to figure out what choice Mr. Trump will make!

3 posted on 07/13/2016 10:50:04 AM PDT by grania
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I'm hard pressed to remember an election where the selection of VP made a material difference in the November outcome.

George the Younger's pick of Cheney probably made the difference between winning and losing.
4 posted on 07/13/2016 10:52:17 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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Trump will announce it in his own time.

Please, let it be West.


5 posted on 07/13/2016 10:52:49 AM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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Once the pick is made, there is sure to be much caterwauling, foot stamping and other displays of disappointment, rage and indignation.

This is nothing new.

The corrupt in D.C., the controlling globalist, and assorted anti-American anti-freedom extremist have been doing this 24/7 since 6/16/2015.

6 posted on 07/13/2016 10:55:34 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Jeff sessions would be fantastic


7 posted on 07/13/2016 10:57:45 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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I hear you but GWB never bothered to groom or develop anybody - leaving us with John McCain!

I do not think a President Trump would make the same mistake. I believe he will bring a lot of talent into the Administration and likely not one but several of them will emerge as serious future presidential candidates. People who we are not even talking about today as being major players.

So in Trump's case, he may decide to go with a seasoned vet for now over some young upstart. I believe he's always thinking well ahead.

8 posted on 07/13/2016 10:58:36 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Did you get pears?)
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My guess is that Trump had picked his VP a long time ago. I bet he worked that detail out long before he "officially" decided to run.

Trump knows how to be a showman and keep things interesting, and his VP may or may not be anyone the world is currently focusing on

I think I'll be surprised and possibly disappointed if it is.

9 posted on 07/13/2016 10:59:32 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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Here's hoping that Trump has a wild card up his sleeve for VP and really WOWS us

yes, a wild card please...
10 posted on 07/13/2016 11:01:32 AM PDT by novemberslady
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They will very likely lose to one of Trump’s sons. The Clinton’s and Bush’s are not the only ones who can play political dynasty.


11 posted on 07/13/2016 11:01:57 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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My hope is Sessions, but Pence is a choice I can live with...


12 posted on 07/13/2016 11:03:59 AM PDT by proust (Trump/Sessions 2016!)
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I agree that Bush not only had no heir apparent but didn’t bother to try and find one either. Pence is both young and seasoned. At 57 he has a long future ahead of him. And should the worst happen, he would make a good president.


13 posted on 07/13/2016 11:04:27 AM PDT by Genoa
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Wouldn't it be something if Trump knew who his VP would be before he even decided to run! And that person has been lurking in the background, out of sight, ever since, while the media focuses on the "obvious" candidates.

Sometimes the best way to hide something is in plain sight.

My memory might be fuzzy on this but didn't McCain plant Sarah Palin with the press pool during the announcement? When her name was announced, she simply got up and walked right past them on her way up to the stage.

14 posted on 07/13/2016 11:04:55 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Did you get pears?)
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I’ll just say that it’s interesting that Fox has severed ties with Newt. He could be the man. Eye of Newt!!


15 posted on 07/13/2016 11:06:01 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: dragnet2

Yes, the Trump boys are both sharp as the proverbial tack. I have heard them on the radio. Ivanka is OK too.


16 posted on 07/13/2016 11:06:09 AM PDT by Genoa
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I don’t think it’s wild card time. It’s been a year of wild cards. A safe, stable choice that’s relatively inoffensive and doesn’t lose votes. Trump is already a wild card running a high risk high reward campaign. He needs a stable, boring counterweight.


17 posted on 07/13/2016 11:06:20 AM PDT by proust (Trump/Sessions 2016!)
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[Sometimes the best way to hide something is in plain sight.]

I still think the VP will be SARAH PALIN.


18 posted on 07/13/2016 11:12:27 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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There are two things Trump respects more than anything else.

1. Loyalty. Pence voted for Cruz. Enough said. Gingrich has been on the Trump Train since the beginning.

2. Truth Telling. Trump respects people that have their own opinions and can back them up. That is Gingrich all the way. Gingrich is not afraid to tell Trump he’s wrong on something and Trump respects that.


19 posted on 07/13/2016 11:12:38 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: stars & stripes forever

Palin for interior or energy.


20 posted on 07/13/2016 11:14:04 AM PDT by Genoa
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