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Wrong, Thom Hartmann, the Wealthy Are Not Exempt From Social Security Taxes
NewsBusters.org ^ | July 4, 2016 | Jack Coleman

Posted on 07/04/2016 7:48:30 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/04/2016 7:48:31 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Liberals are not capable of doing basic mathematics

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2 posted on 07/04/2016 7:50:24 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Maybe they can get real jobs and shut the #### up.

Maybe welfare should be Abolished.

Care of the disabled is not welfare.

My friend worked at a check cashing place a while back and said lines of able bodies black men as far as the eye could see where on line waiting for their cash.

And this was over 20 years ago!! I’m sure it hasn’t gotten better.


3 posted on 07/04/2016 7:59:05 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Kaslin

Just more liberal lies and deceit. A bull crap excuse to increase taxation on the wealthy. EVERYONE pays into SS during their working years to the specified limits.

TAX, TAX, TAX. The socialists’ signature.


4 posted on 07/04/2016 8:01:46 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Kaslin
Interest, dividends and capital gains are not subject to social security tax. Neither are certain forms of unearned income. Businesses, farmers, fisherman and others are supposed to pay self-employment SS taxes. All up to the limit, of course.

So, in a sense, many of the wealthy do not have to pay social security taxes. I don't know if all rental income is exempt or just certain forms of it.

5 posted on 07/04/2016 8:03:32 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Kaslin

As we all know, implementing the FairTax would solve the Social Security and Medicare tax problem.

FRom Fairtax FAQ page @ http://fairtax.org/faq:

“How is the Social Security system affected?

“Like all federal spending programs, Social Security operates exactly as it does today, except that its funds come from a broad, progressive sales tax, rather than a narrow, regressive payroll tax. Employers continue to report wages for each employee, though, to the Social Security Administration for the determination of benefits. The transition to a reformed Social Security system is eased while ensuring there is sufficient funding to continue promised benefits.

“Meanwhile, Social Security/Medicare funds are no longer triple-taxed as under the current system: 1) when payroll taxes are initially withheld; 2) when those withheld payroll taxes are counted as part of the taxable base for income tax purposes; and 3) when the promised benefits are finally received.

“How does the FairTax affect Social Security reform?

“FairTax.org is a one-issue organization: Tax replacement. However, its proposal does benefit any Social Security reform proposal. The FairTax.org plan does not change Social Security benefits or the structure of the Social Security system. All it does is replace the current revenue source (narrow, regressive payroll taxes) with a new revenue source (broad, progressive sales taxes paid by all consumers).

“Additionally, research shows that consumption is a more stable revenue source than income. If Social Security is reformed or privatized in a way that reduces the government’s need for revenue, then the FairTax rate can be reduced. For example, if a mandatory private savings program is implemented where people must save ten percent of their income and Social Security benefits are curtailed, then the FairTax rate can be reduced just as payroll taxes would be reduced.”


6 posted on 07/04/2016 8:05:15 PM PDT by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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To: Kaslin

That guy’s photo reminded me of a phrase I hadn’t heard for a long time: “Pencil-Necked Geek”.


7 posted on 07/04/2016 8:05:57 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: dp0622

It’s gotten a LOT better. Those men don’t have to suffer the embarrassment of standing in line any longer. Now they get their EBT cards filled automatically every “pay day” and they can spend their “wages” using a plastic card like the rest of us do. Now THAT’S progress.


8 posted on 07/04/2016 8:06:25 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Man50D; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; Voter#537; ...

Ping to my post #6


9 posted on 07/04/2016 8:08:05 PM PDT by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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To: Kaslin

Tax Lieberals. Put their money where their mouth is.


10 posted on 07/04/2016 8:13:52 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That’s just great...


11 posted on 07/04/2016 8:14:24 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Kaslin
Except that social security and medicare taxes are only assessed on earned income, not capital gains, interests and dividends, or rents in some situations. Distributions from certain corporate structures are also not taxed.

So, theoretically at least, some very wealthy people pay no FICA or medicare taxes. Someone like John Kerry's wife, whose income comes from investments may not have paid much FICA or medicare taxes.

12 posted on 07/04/2016 8:15:49 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kaslin

it seems like thom hartmann forgot to take his ritalin when he wrote this article lol...


13 posted on 07/04/2016 8:17:26 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Kaslin

I like to tease liberals on other sites by telling them that I support removing the cap as I plan to retire soon (not true), and so all of them millennials will be paying more to support my luxurious retirement lifestyle.

Oh yea, I also thanked them for Obamacare, as it lets me retire early and pay a relatively small amount for my insurance (which I would otherwise been forced to pay through the teeth for, if even available - due to health reasons). I thanked them because the people their age don’t even need the insurance, but are now forced to not only buy it, but to overpay for it...with that overpayment going straight to my generation.

Many people here, me included at times, call the Millennials selfish and greedy, but this older type person thinks that they are the MOST GENEROUS generation this country has ever seen - and that’s because THEY’RE TOO STUPID to figure it out.


14 posted on 07/04/2016 8:26:11 PM PDT by BobL
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Doesn’t matter. To the Left, nothing is ever enough. They could (and did) tax higher income at 95% and they will still complain, until it all becomes like Venezuela today... and then they will complain some more... and always blame someone else or some other idea. THEIR ideas can never be to blame, of course.


15 posted on 07/04/2016 8:35:24 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Taxman
Hullo Taxman!

Yeah the nrst would resolve it...and a lot of other problems would go,away too.

16 posted on 07/04/2016 8:38:25 PM PDT by Principled (...the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others...)
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To: Principled

Howdy, Principled.

Hope you and yours are healthy and doing well.

Can you hit a 2 iron, yet?


17 posted on 07/04/2016 8:48:23 PM PDT by Taxman ((H. L. Mencken correctly observed: Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man.))
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To: Kaslin

For the lower class without extra income, it is untaxed. For the middle class, 85 percent, including the amount paid into Medicare, is taxed as ordinary income.


18 posted on 07/04/2016 9:02:46 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Trump-Santorum and Paul Nehlen 2016)
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To: BobL

I’ve heard many comment on the lack of ability and knowledge of the 20-year-olds; is this true?


19 posted on 07/04/2016 9:03:59 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Trump-Santorum and Paul Nehlen 2016)
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To: Kaslin
His comment here amused me: So in other words, our protections for poor people basically are expanding.

Yes, Thom. After close to eight years of the Affirmative Action Amateur.

20 posted on 07/04/2016 9:10:48 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far.)
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