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Sales-talk about the Islamic ‘Golden Age’
American Thinker ^ | June 18, 2016 | Paul Austin Murphy

Posted on 06/18/2016 9:35:52 AM PDT by Kaslin

Critics of Islam need to know about the Islamic “Golden Age” because it will be thrown at them on various occasions. That Golden Age ended in the 13th century A.D... Actually, according to many historians, it ended even earlier than that -- in the 12th or even the 11th century.

True, at this period there was a lot of culture and civilization in the Muslim world (depending on when and depending on where). Yet that was around eight centuries ago -- at the least! Not only that: virtually the entire Islamic Golden Age was engendered by the influence of Greek philosophy and science; as well as of Jewish and Christian theology, and Persian and Indian culture.

It is, therefore, a sign of desperation that Muslims need to go back so far in order to sell us the idea that Islam “is a religion of culture... and peace”.

Even during the Islamic Golden Age minorities were still persecuted and jihad was still fought. In fact, culture and science were some of the results of Islamic imperialism. So, yes, there were also periods of peace and culture.

The thing is that “Islamic culture” was not actually Islamic: it was Muslim. That is, the various cultural flowerings had very little -- or nothing -- to do with Islam and the Koran.

Basically, Muslims simply shouldn't need to mention what happened in the 12th century in order to sell Islam to the unbeliever.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: islam

1 posted on 06/18/2016 9:35:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Trying to sell a defected product.


2 posted on 06/18/2016 9:42:20 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Kaslin

If the Byzantines had won the Battle of Manzikert, we would never have heard of Islam.


3 posted on 06/18/2016 9:45:01 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Kaslin

Islamic “Golden Age” ended because Islam eventually choked the last life out of the civilizations it had conquered.


4 posted on 06/18/2016 9:47:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Kaslin

> in order to sell Islam to the unbeliever

When a fantasy cult like islam forces itself upon mentally challenged people, there is no need to sell it.

islam is great for sick, horny males. That’s all it was ever intended for.


5 posted on 06/18/2016 9:48:07 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Kaslin

Islamic ‘Golden Age’ was more a product of a few non-fundamentalist Islamic leaders who recruited intellect and skills from Jews, Hindus and Zoroastrians. The Golden Age was interrupted and then ended by fundamentalist Islamic variations.


6 posted on 06/18/2016 9:57:22 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Kaslin
All you need to know about Islam and how they are taking over the world.

Bill Warner, PhD: Jihad vs Crusades

7 posted on 06/18/2016 10:05:56 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: Kaslin

I find it disturbing that Elven script looks like Arabic.


8 posted on 06/18/2016 10:18:44 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Kaslin

Just imagine what things might have been like if those filthy Mohammadan aggressors hadn’t burned so many libraries!

And they want us to thank them for the minority of books that survived their earlier rampages?


9 posted on 06/18/2016 11:15:25 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Kaslin
There was no Islamic Golden Age.

Mohammed and Charlemagne

Moslem societies' prosperity such as it ever was is entirely dependent on the produced garnered by constant raiding of infidel nations and by conquest. Ehen the fruits of conquest are run through with further conquest unsuccessful the Moslem societies DECLINE . At most, in almost every time a tiny group of rulers lives in opulence while the population in general lives on bare subsistence. They do not produce better than that because the ruler confiscates everything above that bare subsistence level.

10 posted on 06/18/2016 11:20:15 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

Does anyone doubt what the Middle East will devolve into when all the oil is gone? No more western contractors to build modern buildings, no money to buy modern products. At least when that happens they won’t have to rediscover how to slit throats.


11 posted on 06/18/2016 11:26:31 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: FirstFlaBn

All gains from conquest and raiding(and foreign tribute and sales of oil, which is really Western gifts) that are above what is necessary to support the rulers in opulence goes to finance conquest and raiding i.e. Jihad, which is what we are seeing in the world NOW. Plus the Mohammedans have placed a president and staff in the presidency of the most powerful enemy nation.


12 posted on 06/18/2016 11:32:14 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: jjotto; Kaslin

>The Golden Age was interrupted and then ended by fundamentalist Islamic variations.

Like al-Ghazali.


13 posted on 06/18/2016 11:39:20 AM PDT by Jacob Kell (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history, Obama is the yellow stain in front)
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To: Kaslin
The Closing of the Muslim Mind: How Intellectual Suicide Created the Modern Islamist Crisis by Robert R. Reilly

According to this book & author, the 'Golden Age' of Islamic freedom of thought, pretty much came to a halt in the 1100s. While the frontiers of the Islamic Empire explosively grew from the 700s on, it was a power struggle in their heartland from Egypt to Iraq that decided their intellectual boundaries.

The 'liberals' (traditional use) took the intellectual torch from both the Mediterranean and Hindu civilizations and built upon them. The theologians and reactionaries rejected those as non-Islamic and instead held the Koran and the commentaries upon it as being supreme and sufficient - after all, it was the work of the supreme intellect, Allah! One might say that the winning side KEPT the lawyers and instead KILLED the philosephers!

It was the latter that won out and it is their worldview and favor that we now face.

14 posted on 06/18/2016 11:50:22 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Biggirl

More like a defecated product.


15 posted on 06/18/2016 12:15:08 PM PDT by Ceebass
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To: Kaslin

It’s my understanding that all the great things that came out of the so-called Golden Era were actually accomplished by non muslims who were enslaved in the conquered territories.


16 posted on 06/18/2016 12:17:31 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: FirstFlaBn

“Does anyone doubt what the Middle East will devolve into when all the oil is gone?”

I’m certain they’ve given it serious consideration and are infiltrating the West ahead of time. (Saudi Arabia: TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS to Hillary for President)!!!! They do NOT want the USA to be anything less than accomodating to muslims!!!


17 posted on 06/18/2016 12:55:36 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: MUDDOG
I find it disturbing that Elven script looks like Arabic.

No it doesn't. Here is Elvish (cursive form and non-cursive form):

Here is Arabic:


18 posted on 06/18/2016 1:51:20 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: AlaskaErik

Bingo! Plus,they stole zero from India!


19 posted on 06/18/2016 3:51:42 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Kaslin

The Islamic golden age ended when radical Muslims demanded a return to the precepts at the time of Mohamed. Persian poet Omar Kyam would be executed in modern Iran for suggesting a loaf of bread, a jug of wine and time alone in the wilderness with a woman.


20 posted on 06/18/2016 7:55:58 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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