Posted on 06/17/2016 7:37:12 PM PDT by Theoria
Inside an opulent palace in Riyadh late one evening in February 2004, two American investigators interrogated a man they believed might hold answers to one of the lingering mysteries of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks: What role, if any, did officials in Saudi Arabia’s government play in the plot?
The man under questioning, Fahad al Thumairy, had been a Saudi consular official based in Los Angeles and the imam of a mosque visited by two of the hijackers. The investigators, staff members of the national 9/11 commission who had waited all day at the United States Embassy before being summoned to the late-night interview, believed that tying him to the plot could be a step toward proving Saudi government complicity in the attacks.
They were unsuccessful. In two interviews lasting four hours, Mr. Thumairy, a father of two then in his early 30s, denied any ties to the hijackers or their known associates. Presented with phone records that seemed to contradict his answers, he gave no ground, saying the records were wrong or people were trying to smear him. The investigators wrote a report to their bosses saying they believed Mr. Thumairy was probably lying, though no government investigation into the Sept. 11 attacks has ever found conclusive evidence that Mr. Thumairy — or any other Saudi official — assisted in the plot.
But nearly 15 years after the attacks on New York and Washington, the question of a Saudi connection has arisen again amid new calls for the release of a long-classified section of a 2002 congressional inquiry into the attacks that discusses a possible Saudi role in the terrorist plot — the so-called 28 pages, whose secrecy has made them almost mythical.
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Duh, Whabbist SA funded (pubically or privately) Mosques, Imams, “charities”, CAIR “officials. etc need to be deported, with prejudice.
Damn straight!
Those ####s destroyed the beautiful towers I worked in twice and was always in awe of each and EVERY day I worked.
If Bush wasn’t sleeping with the sauds so much i’m surprised he’s not pregnant, we would have rocked Saudi Arabia with a real president.
Instead it’s almost like Bush listened to every word Bin Laden said.
Invade without enough forces, get drawn into bitter and long wars, deplete our treasure and lose or maim our finest, and end up with a 20 trillion dollar debt.
Oh, and terrorists in all 50 US states.
I HATE the Bush family. They may be the two most destructive Republican presidents we’ve ever had.
Let’s not forget that after 9-11, several other airlines found stashes of box cutters in their aircraft.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/23/inv.investigation.terrorism/
Its not an either-or thing.
I believe a lot of people had contacts with Bin Ladin.
I believe Saddam had a hand in 911, but that doesn’t mean for an instant that Saudis didn’t. We know Bin Ladin was taking money from Saudis, but his inner circle had been on Saddam’s payroll. He was tasked with turning the ‘Stans into the caliphate, probably with our tacit consent, he trained people all across south asia but he also inspired at least the 911 attackers.
The Al Qaeda org chart isn’t so simple. Who provided the money? Probably the Saudis; we know they provided some of it. Who were their control agents? For 911, Saddam. Saddam had contact at the ground level with Al Qaeda people all over. The 911 trail leads from the first Twin Towers attack several years before, and it leads through Baghdad. But where did Bin Ladin get protection after the attack? Pakistan’s ISI, and Iran. Like I say, it gets murky. And if there is Saudi money involved, you can bet there are other people who would be embarrassed for that to come out.
Saddam needed to hang, but you notice no one wanted to dig too deep there. Sort of like McVeigh. He needed to hang, but no one wanted to dig too deep.
Who was behind Beslan, for instance? The Turks and Saudis. Prior to Beslan, it probably had our tacit consent, again, since we were just coming out of the Cold War and wanted ot make sure the Soviet Union couldn’t reconstitute itself. After Beslan that became politically impossible to support the Chechens, but that was after.
Its sort of like ISIS. It probably seemed like a brilliant idea to the Turks, Saudis, and State Department geeks, turn our enemies loose against our enemies, turn Al Qaeda loose on Assad, drive a physical wedge between Iran and Syria. Then they started slaughtering Christians en masse on camera, and it became politically impossible to support it.
Its always tempting to use jihadis for your own purposes, but since they hate you as much or more than whoever else you are sending them against, and since they are monsters with no sense of propriety, it always comes back to bite you.
FBI has to go through Saudi Government officials to try to prove complicity of Saudi government in 9/11 attacks
Uhh. OK. Good luck with that
Question, would we have agreed to the vast intrusive homeland security operation in this country before 9/11? Peple would have had to be dragged, beaten and clubbed in order to even get close to agreeing to this but this one event had us all running to them to save us. Something to think about. The bushes are globalists and have always been in bed with the saudis, all the hyjakcers were saudis, there families in this country were saftley removed out before or shortly after the event, also something to think about. Distraction is a tool.
our once great FBI is little more than obammy’s goon squad.
“see something say something”?
What a crock
One of my best friends was flying on 9/11. The passengers were loaded, the door was closed and they were waiting for the runway and got the call to go back to the gate. The flight was almost empty and my friend, who was lead flight attendant, went to each person and explained that the runway was closed and they were going back to the gate but didn’t know why. There were two muslims, sitting far apart from each other and when she told each one of them, they had the exact same reaction : they both glared at her with hatred and slowly turned and looked out the window. They at no time acted like they knew each other and their reaction has stayed with her for 15 years.
Once again, our media refuses to inform. Globally what is happening ie easy to understand. Sunni and Shia have been at each others throats for 600 years. The only thing they agree on is Western infidels need to be killed. We get confused by words like Iraq, Syria, etc. Tthese are fictions, imaginary lines in sand.
So when we hear about ISIS in Syria or Hezbollah in Lebanon we believe that because nations is how we see things. Tribes is how they see things. So to them it is first family, then tribe. The reality we miss is what our leadership has known all along. We choose a side (if you will) with the Saudis/ Sunni decades ago. That is the way Saudis see it, to be sure. Carter and Zero have tried to be more “even handed” in the Shia-Sunni conflict and both failed badly.
It should be painfully obvious that the way to deal with Islam is the way we dealt with the Soviets and Red Chinese. Iron curtain. No travel, no commerce, certainly no immigration. Wall up both sides and let them continue to destroy each other.
Our problem is that while we won every battle in the Cold War we actually lost because, like Cleopatra, we brought the asp to our bosom. Our culture has been over run by commies, our gummint thoroughly infiltrated by commies and now Muslims and a bizarre amalgam of commie Muslims (which is like water and oil but leftards are masters at managing cognitive dissonance).
So the long version of “no more Muslims” is we need to start there and then root out the commies and Muslims and get rid of them. Let them go to Muslim or commie countries if they wish but they must not be allowed to remain.
If we can do these things we just might get by for another 25 or even 50 years. Alternatively, we can continue to let massive influxes of Muslims that are a mixture of Shia and Sunni I suppose. One wonders if Zero and friends don’t have some fantasy like “if they can learn to live together here they can learn to do so there” delusion. Never happen, IMHO. The ONE thing they agree on is they hate us. If they hate us why do they come here. Are you kidding? Jihad! Global conquest and comfort at the same time. What more could an aspiring jihadi ask?
Like the lottery folks say, you can’t win if you don’t play. Well, in war you can’t win if you don’t fight. If our gummint won’t do what is required then we have to roll up our sleeves. One way or another the commies and Muslims gotta go. It is just that simple. Our leaders act like and even openly say we can’t fight Islam. Well, then we lose.
I am sure she realizes that there is a good chance she is alive today because of it.
There are so many more stories.
One I heard was that a flight was brought back to the gate and passengers were unloaded. They were told to get the passengers back onboard and when they did, the muslim First Class passengers were gone. Also, several aircraft cleaners reported finding box cutters in the seatback pockets for the next several weeks afterwards at different airlines.
I think the attack was supposed to be much bigger than it was.
No question.
Wow. My first ping, only to discover I need more coffee. And I've gone beyond my normal quota already.......
:-)
I dislike the Bush family, I'm thrilled they have been mortally wounded by Trump, they deserved to lose their power base. I hope they are gone.
Let's just say the story of our descent into becoming a stupid country started before them, way before 9/11, and the part played by the Bush family was really pretty small compared to all the forces unleashed. The loss of our culture was far beyond politics, and unfortunately all of us lost in that war.
I see the Bushes as more of a naive, feckless bunch who sold their (and our) positions for a bowl of porridge, and 9/11 as one of many tests we failed as a nation.
bkmk
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