Falling birth rates could spell end of the West - [Rabbi] Lord Sacks

The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6 June 2016 | John Bingham

[Mrs. Don-o]

You are a woman of great insight, Tax-chick.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Dsc, I think the larger number is the global figure; the "smaller" one (Roe's cumulative toll of 50,000,000 dead American babies) is the U.S. figure.

Accounting methods vary California doesn't even report numbers to the CDC's Abortion Surveillance unit. And many abortion entrepreneurs who accept 1st party cash payment are assumed to conceal total numbers for tax fraud purposes.

In the Netherlands, a procedure is not legally an abortion unless there has been a positive determination of pregnancy; therefore if they do "menstrual extractions" on schoolgirls whose periods are "a little late," without even testing for pregnancy, it is not reportable as an abortion.

Neither--- as far as I know ---does either figure fully account for non-surgical, i.e. drug-induced, abortions.`

Thus do whole nations die. You don't even need a thermonuclear device. A suction cannula will do.

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[dsc]

Wow. I thought I had something of a ballpark notion of the depth of this evil. Guess not.

[Tax-chick]

Thank you. I like to think that, at least, I develop some thoughtful conclusions after pondering all I read.

Like you, I’ve lived my life among men and women who have rumbled along more or less amicably, all things considered. The posts about women here - equal parts fear, loathing, and contempt - are like nothing I’ve come across in my real life.

However, it is the environment many teens and young adults are in. Many of them do not view the opposite sex as “persons,” really, merely as sexual opportunities or sexual threats. For example, in one book I read about teenaged girls’ use of social media, middle school girls reported that a male classmate would text them to ask a question about an assignment, and if the girl responded, the next text would be, “Send nude pix?” or “Buttsex?”

I have to laugh at the men our age (I guess ... FRs demographic skews late-middle-aged) who complain that women are fat and covered with tattoos. “Don’t they realize we don’t find that attractive?!?” Yes, they do ... and they don’t care.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I was in a so-called "women's consciousness-raising group" way back about 1971. I would have been 19 or 20. I was the youngest: most of the other participants were in their 30's or older, as I vaguely remember.

We had a different subject every week (work, school, dating, travel, housework, sports/games, music, religion) but no matter what the topic, the real discussion was always "He/They Done Me Wrong," the moral indictment of men.

I remember lying in bed after one such discussion thinking, "Are men like that? Is my father like that? Is my brother like that? Was my 8th grade boyfriend like that?"

My father, my brother, and my 8th grade boyfriend were normal decent male human beings ---NOT "like that". So I was troubled that these women were, for some reason, provoking their worst thoughts, "bidding up" each other's resentments and grievances, and constructing a huge contemptible cartoon picture of all men everywhere. I made a mental resolution that I would NEVER libel any man the way Jeanne K trash-talked about her ex.<

I have my father, my brother, and sweet Jimmy C. (St. Peter's Grade School class of 1965) to thank for my lifelong immunity to Male Defamation Campaigns. Because they were good boys, good men.

And now I thank my husband, who is a credit to his sex.

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[Tax-chick]

provoking their worst thoughts, "bidding up" each other's resentments and grievances, and constructing a huge contemptible cartoon picture of all men everywhere

Just like teenagers online do with their parents! It's a negative feedback loop echo chamber in which they get more and more disconnected from real people and more invested in their cartoons.