Posted on 06/05/2016 10:13:44 AM PDT by Mariner
I’ve always wondered why there was not a country-wide plan of pipes that could deliver water where needed. May sound stupid, but a plan where each state followed a major plan to divert water from a flooded area to an arid or needy area would —— might —— answer some of the problems.
Most Heinous Indeed.
I’ll spare you the obligatory Bill & Ted pic due to the gravity of the situation.
That's not accurate.
Statewide the state received approx 70% of normal rainfall this last winter...close to 100% up north and closer to 50% in the south.
That's after 3.5 years of 20-30% statewide.
The water districts are lobbying to sell more water so they can keep their pensions funded.
South of the Delta CA remains in "Exceptional Drought". That's where the farms are drying up.
Here in east Texas we just got about six years worth in six weeks.
Still got it, I'm sitting here looking at it.
California is welcome to it.
If northern California didn’t have to supply the Southland with water that would solve half the problem. They have millions of people living in the desert, a good portion of them being illegals.
”Federal [emphasis added] regulators have said pumping restrictions are necessary to protect endangered species of Delta fish."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
Patriots, please consider that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to define and protect endangered animal species.
Why can’t the fish be bred in captivity or cloned?
Remember in November !
When patriots elect Trump, they need to also elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will not only work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support Trump’s vision to make America great again, but also put a stop to unconstitutional federal interference in state affairs.
Note that such a Congress would also probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.
So true.
Norcal sends what it can. However, when it stopped raining up here it was inevitable that there would be restricted flow to the south.
If we get good rain and snow this coming winter...and especially if THEY get good rain and snow...this will all be moot.
Except for the farmers who planted fruit trees. They are wiped out.
But one has to wonder, why would somebody plant peaches, cherries and oranges in area that cannot provide it's own water?
Of note: Many orchards in Norcal are beginning to shift to olives.
It's backwards. They ought to be growing olives in the south and nuts/fruit in the north.
The south could also expand their truck farming of vegetables. Enormous production in good years...some acreage fallowed in the very bad years.
But to lose all those orchards in the south as a disaster.
That ***CH Sweinstein is a despicable, arrogant piece of work.
A few years ago, a delegation from the Central valleys traveled to DC to meet with her, seeking her help with preventing the valleys from turning into dust bowls.
After waiting hours to "see" her, She granted them a 30-second audience and her curt reply was...
IT'S THE LAW!!!
DEAL WITH IT!!!
I have more to say about this topic to the geniuses who, if they live in California, have not bothered to educate themselves about its history in this area.
Concentrating on the fruits and nuts issue is by far much more important!
Which is true, all things considered. It's a man-made drought.
California had a monumental Biblical flood around 1860; the entire valley could be navigated from any point to any other point in riverboats in a straight line.
California properly deemed the total loss value to entire towns (including the Capital,) roads etc., to be trivial compared to a determined program to prevent its recurrence.
For the next 75 years an extensive network of dams and reservoirs was built to solve the problem, which indeed it did. The goal was both flood control and irrigation to one of the richest, extensive valleys on earth, as well as consumption for human beings.
Fast forward to the new dark age, disguised as mindless "environmentalism;" (Bumper stickers, "Environment NOW!" WTF?)
In the 1970s a program was mounted at absurd cost, actually to dismantle the prudent system.
Forty years later, a new program was mounted, at absurd cost to replace the network previously destroyed. But this time worms, salamanders and tiny junk fish ruled the masters.
(
As an aside, in the current drought, those very same crtitters were the first to die; extensively and thoroughly.)
(To be continued)
It is a disaster for sure.
When you flush 19.80 inches of that 20 down the drain to the Pacific Ocean to protect a NON-NATIVE bait fish, I would call that a man made (government) created drought.
Yes; we have been short on rain, that’s typical for California, but prior to the Lib/Transi/Environazi/Demonrat court cases, lawsuits, and stupid regulations we always got along just fine.
Prior to the Transi/Democrat/Environazis taking power in Sacramento we had some pretty good storage and distribution systems in this state, those have since been demoed or taken off line for a fish that originally came from Louisiana.
Unlike Nevada or Arizona; California is NOT a water poor state. We just have a lot of very stupid people in our courts and state government who have agendas that are anti business, anti citizen, and anti common sense.
TRUMP is right; the water problems in California have been caused by our REGULATORS and ENVIRONAZIS.
Southern California and the Central Valley have always been deserts, or lowland steppe; with a few riparian habitats along permanent or semi permanent river courses.
With the exception of seasonal vernal pools any standing water in the Central Valley was generally created by man.
If you look along the western slope of the Sierra Nevada mountains you primarily see on the lower slopes open oak woodland, grassland and lower elevation chaparral.
As you go up in elevation it transitions to pinyon/juniper/scrub oak/chaparral.
Go up higher and it transitions again to redwood/pine forests.
The westside foothills up into the coastal ranges have always been oak/grassland/chaparral, until they started farming those foothills in the early to mid 20th century.
The valley floor was always high desert/grassland (think Antelope Valley) until irrigation and farming started in the late 19th century.
In essence the central valley floor was always desert/grassland/scattered oak forest, until it was irrigated. Good for grazing livestock but not much else.
PRECISELY.
Quotes or not, There is no Drought! Take a Look at just one of our reservoirs:
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/resapp/resDetailOrig.action?resid=SHA
The MFer is damned near full!
Did you pull that number from your ass?
No.
But I would call it the results of actions taken by activists and legislators without a clue, destroying a complex system built over generations to DEAL with floods and droughts.
See my post #29.
Yeah, I did; it’s called SARCASM.
But would that figure surprise me, HELL NO.
90% of all CA reservoirs were under 25% of capacity. Some were bone dry. None were even half full.
If Norcal had shipped as much water as the south valley wanted...and frankly needed to keep the trees alive...both north and south would have run completely out.
No water for anybody.
In my assessment the regulators did a good job of keeping the north alive and allowing the south to wither. There's was really no other choice.
Yes, 10% could have been saved by not flooding the delta to keep the fish alive, but that's it.
The absolute core issue is the lack of new damns in the last 40 years while the population doubled.
Urban areas use more water than farmers.
If water had been cut to the urban areas to the same extent it was to the farmers...there would have been riots and cities burned to the ground.
More damns. More canals are the answer.
And those two issues are what you can be angry at the enviros over.
Now that CA got 75% of annual average this last winter, all talk of additional storage has been shelved in Sacramento. It just won't happen.
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