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What If Bernie Actually Wins California?
Townhall.com ^ | June 3, 2016 | Mark Davis

Posted on 06/03/2016 5:17:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Any super delegates jumping off the sinking USS Hillary will cause her to “Foster” hard feelings towards them.


41 posted on 06/03/2016 6:41:34 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: baltimorepoet

“Is there any good way to distribute the Anarchist’s cookbook to Bernie supports BEFORE the Dem convention?”

They already have it, they wrote it.


42 posted on 06/03/2016 6:44:20 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah I realize that.


43 posted on 06/03/2016 6:46:13 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: HangUpNow; All
If Trump can't bury Stalin's son or Satan's daughter, America has much bigger problems requiring even yuger solutions

I'm afraid that's where we are now, FRiend...look at the SCUM the electorate has placed in power of the last couple of decades...ON BOTH sides of the aisle...it's depressing.
44 posted on 06/03/2016 6:48:58 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: HangUpNow

I can see from your writing that you’ve got a strong core of beliefs. You’re thinking that most people will look at this the way you do - with a strong core of political beliefs. I think this is an error.

Most people don’t read Bastiat, Hayek, Friedman or Rand etc...
Most people don’t know what the Constitution provides for and restricts or why it provides/restricts things.
Most people don’t talk politics on the internet.
Most people do see headlines on CBS/ABC/NBC or Google/Yahoo

This is why Sanders will play better than both you and the article author believe. He won’t call it communism even though we know it is. He won’t call it socialism even though we know it is. He’ll shuck and jive when those labels are foisted upon him. He’ll duck questions about Venezuela’s object example of socialism’s failure by saying it just wasn’t implemented properly without noting that it’s impossible to be implemented properly.

I still don’t think he’d beat Trump but I do think he’d play MUCH better than you or the author do.

As for Biden, his story will be:
“Ending the rancor in the Democrat party”
“A steady hand in time of turmoil”
“Someone who’s been there for the last 8 years”
“Someone who knows what’s happening in the world and isn’t going to overreact”
“Someone you can trust”

You and I (and many here) know all the things you posted about him are true. For the reasons I stated above about Sanders, I acknowledge that for most people, those things about Biden won’t matter. He will be untarnished by the long primary and when he takes Warren as his running mate, he’ll bring peace to the Democrat party. Most of the Sanders voters who many have switched to Trump will not switch.


45 posted on 06/03/2016 7:17:01 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Donglalinger
She still gets half the delegates and wins the nomination.

And she and the Dems still end up with a severe case of stomach cramps and diarrhea, and the anti-Hillary/pro-Bernie crowd ups the ante....

Priceless!

46 posted on 06/03/2016 7:33:48 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Biden has already run for President — twice.

He imploded both times, when caught plagarizing speeches without attribution.

Biden has plenty of skeletons in the closet for Trump to exploit. Don’t forget that the main reason Obama chose Biden as VP: no one would dare impeach him and promote Joe.


47 posted on 06/03/2016 7:38:50 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: Robert DeLong
Actually, Hillary! is about 610 away from the nomination, if you drop the superdelegates. That's the point of the story - they are uncommitted and can switch right up until the end unlike the results of caucuses and primaries.

It's still anyone's game because the margin of victory at this point will be 100% decided by the superdelegates. Whoever gets those will win the nomination. And that means the party leaders - the superdelegates - have to decide to support the anointed (Hillary!) or to feel the Bern.

48 posted on 06/03/2016 7:46:40 AM PDT by Shanghai Dan
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To: justlurking

No one will care about that because he’ll end the rancor between Hillary and Bernie. All of that will be barely spoken about, if mentioned at all. He will be portrayed as the white knight unifying the fractured Democrat party.

Trump will go after him, the way he’s gone after everyone else. “Clueless Joe” or some sort. Maybe that sticks, maybe it doesn’t. No matter what, once Biden chooses Warren as his running mate, he will have the a united Democrat party at his back. That’s a serious problem, regardless of how much an idiot he is.


49 posted on 06/03/2016 8:25:14 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Shanghai Dan
Yes that is true, but in reality she is 70 away, because she does have the super-delegates. I love that fact, the youth get to see the realities of their party.

Besides I want Hillary to win, what will happen to the rest of the party loyalists when the party makes her step aside?

50 posted on 06/03/2016 8:51:43 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Kaslin

While conservative America wrings its hands over Donald Trump’s chances of beating Hillary Clinton...

You wish! Go Trump Go!


51 posted on 06/03/2016 9:06:57 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: Kaslin

Nothing?

Thanks to New Jersey, Clinton will be the presumptive nominee before the polls even close in California on the night of June 7.


52 posted on 06/03/2016 9:44:19 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Kaslin

I think the only way Biden can be inserted into the campaign is if Hillary wins the nomination and is subsequently indicted or steps down for health reasons. If Bernie wins and Obama tries to insert Biden as the candidate his supporters will Bern down the house. The DNC will have a serious revolt on their hands and Trump will sail into the White House with a 40+ state landslide while the Democrats are squabbling.


53 posted on 06/03/2016 10:09:24 AM PDT by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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To: Kaslin

Before he takes a week’s vacation next week, Rush said it: Even if Bernie wins the little primary, Mrs. Bill goes over the top with delegates. It’s all a nothing-burger.


54 posted on 06/03/2016 10:13:21 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Trump-Santorum 2016)
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To: justlurking

People in DE won’t say what is the genius they find there.


55 posted on 06/03/2016 10:14:35 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Trump-Santorum 2016)
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To: Personal Responsibility
Thank you, PR.

I want to first say that I respect and appreciate you perspective and opinion.

Yes, I do possess a strong core of beliefs. But one doesn't necessarily need to have obtained it from Bastiat, Hayek, Friedman or Rand etc.

Certainly I realize most folks also aren't Constitutionally or politically savvy. And yes, you're right -- the majority do get their news from the usual TV outlets as well as from Yahoo/Google headlines.

But here's where I believe you my be wrong. These same people sense something is terribly wrong with the morals and ethics of our leaders and institutions. The majority innately know right from wrong.

Sanders will not be able to brand himself as a "good Communist/Socialist" and make it stick. He can shuck and jive, duck and hide -- as will Hillary or even Biden.

Their problem will be a Donald Trump who will tear apart any pretense and act that the media used to mask, cover, and spin. They and their lies will be raw meat for Trump, who expose the flea, the maggots, and rats and grind and shred them to pieces.

As for Biden, his story will be:
“Ending the rancor in the Democrat party”
“A steady hand in time of turmoil”
“Someone who’s been there for the last 8 years”
“Someone who knows what’s happening in the world and isn’t going to overreact”
“Someone you can trust”

You and I (and many here) know all the things you posted about him are true. For the reasons I stated above about Sanders, I acknowledge that for most people, those things about Biden won’t matter. He will be untarnished by the long primary...

I'd dispute that notion totally. Biden IS indeed tarnished by his close association with O'Bamster AND the malodorous record. Trump will make him wear it with bells. THEN ridicule his utter lack of accomplishment in 8 years, his sheer idiocy, and his creepiness.

The Dems will nominate Biden and Pocahontas at their own risk. Trump will not (IMO) have any problem is taking this duo down with ease.

56 posted on 06/03/2016 3:11:23 PM PDT by HangUpNow
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To: HangUpNow

I hope you’re right. If I were a betting man, I’d say

Trump 57/43 Clinton (if Sanders isn’t VP)
Trump 52/48 Clinton (if Sanders is VP)
Trump 51/49 Sanders
Biden 53/47 Trump


57 posted on 06/03/2016 4:52:36 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Kaslin

It will embarras her, but she’s still certain to win the nomination, Sanders is too far behind to catch up.


58 posted on 06/03/2016 6:15:14 PM PDT by Impy
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To: stonehouse01

‘“Conservative America wrings its hands over Donald Trump’s chances of beating Hillary Clinton...”

“Ridiculous and ill informed (not reflecting today’s currents) statement.”

To be expected since it’s written by Mark Davis who has always been a spineless GOPe poseur who calls himself a “conservative” for no discernible reason.


59 posted on 06/03/2016 10:19:26 PM PDT by Pelham (Barack Obama. When being bad is not enough and only evil will do)
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To: Kaslin

No one, not even Democrats, wants someone who didn’t go through the hard job of running for President to pop up and be the anointed nominee.


60 posted on 06/04/2016 7:32:26 AM PDT by Yaelle (Tinkerbelle glittering up the runway for Trump Force One!)
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