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1 killed in Blue Angels jet crash Smyrna, TN
Wrcbtv ^ | 6/2/16 | Liz lohuis

Posted on 06/02/2016 2:06:07 PM PDT by barmag25

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To: Bruce Kurtz

“Lack of parts, maintainers, cannibalization, lack of funds probably have a lot to do with it.”

In the early 1980’s, RAF Lakenheath suffered I think it was at least 7 aircraft crashes in a very short time. Seems every time a Democrat gets into office military maintenance goes to pot.


21 posted on 06/02/2016 2:46:19 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Spktyr

that has zero to do with the Blue Angles


22 posted on 06/02/2016 2:48:34 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: gaijin

Female maintaince personnel without the upper body strength to put the proper torque on nuts and bolts?


23 posted on 06/02/2016 2:55:28 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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"How tragically unfortunate for both the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds both on the same day. :-("

Another 'first' with Barack Hussein Oblama as Commander-and-Thief.

24 posted on 06/02/2016 2:57:41 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America ((Some of you characterized my FReep name as 'paranoid' a few years back.. Care to apologize now?))
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To: CMSMC
Yep, 1970’s all over again. E-3’s were filling E-7 crew chief slots because cashiers at the local supermarket were making more.

I was in Jimmy Carter's Air Force.

25 posted on 06/02/2016 2:57:55 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - voted Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: CodeToad

Highly suspicious.


26 posted on 06/02/2016 2:59:37 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: fella
Female maintaince personnel without the upper body strength to put the proper torque on nuts and bolts?

I believe female airmen are smart enough to use a torque wrench.

27 posted on 06/02/2016 3:01:22 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - voted Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: CGASMIA68; Al

Our country and military are going to pot.
The captain sets the tone of the ship.
A traitorous commander-in-chief has Badly affected morale throughout our military supply chain, procurement inspectors and defense contractors included.
Morale is a key element of organizational accountability and quality assurance.
There are chronic maintenance parts availability and Rampant procurement parts fraud.
Obola is systemically toxic to everything in our country.
We need Reagan like never before.

RE: “In case you hadn’t noticed, under Obama the best the military can get is pretty bad. We have entire fighter wings that can’t fly due to lack of parts and money now”.

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Apr 9, 2015 ... ... 39, of Ankara, Turkey, pleaded guilty to one count of mail fraud. ... defense contractor admits defrauding US military with foreign aircraft parts.
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28 posted on 06/02/2016 3:04:49 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: CGASMIA68

Has a lot to do with it if the unit has to skimp on maintenance or extend maintenance intervals due to lack of funding. The Blue Angels aren’t immune to the pennypinching going on in the military right now - in fact, they were actually grounded in 2013 for lack of money and parts. Made Obama look bad, though, so he grudgingly got them a couple bucks.


29 posted on 06/02/2016 3:08:13 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: fella

Might be a potential issue on tanks and ships but aircraft don’t generally have high-torque fasteners. In fact, if anything they’re *low* torque and, at least in civilian service, it’s more likely to be the guys rounding off or breaking aircraft fasteners unintentionally.


30 posted on 06/02/2016 3:09:47 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Female maintaince personnel without the upper body strength to put the proper torque on nuts and bolts?

...or if your wrist is too limp.

31 posted on 06/02/2016 3:12:12 PM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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Er, except helicopters, which still have giant Jesus nuts on the rotor heads. However, these weren’t helicopters, and even on those most *guys* can’t break those loose or torque them down without power tools.


32 posted on 06/02/2016 3:15:00 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: CMSMC

yea, it looks like hanger queens are back in style again.


33 posted on 06/02/2016 3:31:34 PM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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They were grounded several years ago for about 3 months for lack of funding.

That was under the sequester, where Obama canceled White House tours, air show funding, and all kinds of other government activities that average citizens actually enjoyed. Purely a punitive move so they could blame Republicans for the loss of those things.

The air show teams are normally well-funded because they are highly visible and impressive ambassadors for some of the things that the US government still does very well.

34 posted on 06/02/2016 3:32:18 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: MarchonDC09122009

See #34


35 posted on 06/02/2016 3:44:06 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Spktyr

See #34


36 posted on 06/02/2016 3:44:32 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: CGASMIA68

Funding was *never* fully restored. That’s how it works under Obama. Even the re-funded units are having to decide what to cut.


37 posted on 06/02/2016 3:47:00 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: higgmeister

Me too. One of the hardest jobs I ever had was trying to explain to a 3 star (who retired with 4)why he couldn’t just hire TSgts off the street.


38 posted on 06/02/2016 3:57:34 PM PDT by CMSMC
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To: barmag25

BA#6 right after takeoff off the end of the runway. I hope not, but one cause could be G-Lock as the #6 executes an abrupt hard G pull up after rotation on his takeoff. The other 5 were airborne and there was no attempt to eject by the pilot of #6. Not to many double engine failures to cause a crash other than complete turbine failure taking out both engines, but not likely. Other cause could be stab failure or have both flight control computers fail at once, but again why no ejection unless the seat was still pinned?


39 posted on 06/02/2016 3:57:41 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Bruce Kurtz

The parts situation is true, generally, and a horrible situation but I’m not so sure that the same situation obtains for the ‘show’ teams. I would imagine they are given everything they need, but sometimes ‘stuff’ just happens.

Prayers for the brave Navy pilot and his family, also his squadron.


40 posted on 06/02/2016 4:01:51 PM PDT by EDINVA
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