Science Shows That Torture Doesn't Work and Is Counterproductive

Newsweek ^ | 05/08/2016 | Rupert Stone

[Garth Tater]

...compelling scientific evidence is emerging that torture and coercion are, at best, ineffective means of gathering intelligence.

They're just not doing it right. During the latest Iraqi insanity the islamists two most powerful and cost effective weapons were the roadside bomb and the battery powered handheld drill. Imagine the pain as the 3/8" bit grinds into the kneecap, or do they use metric sizes over there?

[Eagles6]

;-)

[MarvinStinson]

Science shows that NEWSWEAK was sold for one dollar.

[Secret Agent Man]

Correct.

[Thickman]

LOL because it’s true. For a little while, I found Bernie mildly amusing due to his resemblance to my college professors; but, now he just grates on me like most libtards.

[familyop]

"Science Shows That Torture Doesn't Work and Is Counterproductive"

Our forefathers in the Army learned that quite a few generations ago. It's nothing new. Civilian wanna-be interests have been pushing for torture.

[umgud]

I have to believe torture, if done right, is effective.

[OKSooner]

Hey, I think you said it better than I did.

[bakeneko]

Put her in the Comfy Chair!! Then we’ll see her confess!!

[Hulka]

Yes. Techniques and methods along with pain ensures accuracy.

[combat_boots]

That is probably the longest sentence I remember from my college German. Don’t ask me why.

[grobdriver]

the Navy's Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape school used to subject U.S. soldiers to waterboarding as part of their resistance training

These people are idiots.
I didn't see any soldiers at Warner Springs when I went through SERE - and was water boarded, twice.

Water boarding works, and these morons are clueless...

[mrsmith]

Phony torture gets phony information. Science proves it.

Professionals assume someone who has been really tortured- say to a horrible death- has told all.

[Popman]

So when catch the terrorist who has a dirty bomb set to blow in Manhattan in one hour, do we give him a nice banana split sundae or strap him into a chair with a new pair of pruning shears starting at his left pinkie finger, top joint till he talks?

Tough choice....I don’t know....

[AndyTheBear]

Seems the "science" here is just speculation without any actual testing of the theory in question:

Like other enhanced measures, waterboarding cannot be tested in a laboratory for ethical reasons, but there is a sizable amount of relevant scientific literature on it. As O’Mara shows in his book, studies of the “diving reflex” (a set of physiological responses that occur when mammals, including humans, are submerged in water) have demonstrated that immersion in cold water moves brain activity away from areas supporting memory to those “principally concerned with survival,” such as the brainstem and amygdala, which regulate fear, pain and stress. By occluding the airways, waterboarding starves people of air, and there is a “huge literature” showing that lack of oxygen (hypoxia) harms cognition, O’Mara tells Newsweek. He highlights one recent study, which found that hypoxia “severely impairs” a person’s cognitive abilities. Furthermore, waterboarding causes carbon dioxide to accumulate in the body (hypercapnia), which induces fear and panic. In this situation, the ability to think and recall information will be “markedly reduced,” he says.

Not saying it is ethical to do waterboard studies. But neither is it ethical to claim that science was conducted on the question when it has not been.

[Tallguy]

His views have been vindicated by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which concluded in the executive summary of its 6,000-page study of the CIA program, released in December 2014, that the agency's harsh methods failed to glean any intelligence not available through softer tactics....

Lets see... the 2014 Senate had a 53-seat Democrat majority which rushed this conclusion out there to de-legitimize everything done by the Bush Administration after they got smoked in that November's elections. Total BS.

[AndyTheBear]

Water boarding works, and these morons are clueless...

I will take the word of people like you with actual experience with waterboarding over hand waving speculations dressed out to be "science". The latter gives real science a bad name.

[gtwizard]

It’s not about accurate information ... it’s about scaring the heck outta the guy AFTER the one you caught. Torture one in front of the other and don’t even ask any questions. Then see what #2 has to say.

Just sayin.

[aquila48]

Obviously those “scientists” weren’t tortured enough.

[VerySadAmerican]

It worked on John McCain.