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Shaken Trump Foes Face Diminished Options at GOP Convention
ABC News ^ | May 9, 2016 | Alan Fram, AP

Posted on 05/09/2016 11:42:28 AM PDT by Innovative

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To: DarthVader

Wow. wonder if that’s true. LOL! do you think it might bring Rush around????

But at this late date, who cares about Rush? He ripped his knickers in this house already.


41 posted on 05/09/2016 12:14:25 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Lexington Green

That is a wonderful tale. Aesop was one of the truly great lights of history.


42 posted on 05/09/2016 12:16:08 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: stocksthatgoup; All

Paul Ryan and his boss Cesar Conda are all wrapped up in this ‘Our Principles Pac’

Paul Ryan Schedules Party Leadership Fundraiser at Home of Anti-Trump Super-PAC Donor…
Conservative Treehouse ^ | April 12, 2016 | Sundance
Posted on April 18, 2016
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan is heading up a National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) fundraiser in New York on April 25th. However, the venue of the fundraiser is raising some eyebrows:
For those who might not know, the “Ricketts Family” are the primary donors to a Super-PAC specifically created to block Donald Trump from winning the GOP nomination.
Billionaire family Joe and Marlene Ricketts, owners of the Chicago Cubs, have recently given $5,000,000.oo to Katie Packer who heads “Our Principles PAC“, an organization created exclusively to defeat Donald Trump. Katie Packer recently outlined what they are doing with the Ricketts money:
Moving forward, Our Principles PAC is organizing delegates and deploying a number of tactics with a goal of depriving Trump of as many delegates as possible in upcoming contests. OPP will focus on delegate wins, not individual state wins. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/04/12/unreal-paul-ryan-schedules-party-leadership-fundraiser-at-home-of-anti-trump-super-pac-donor/


43 posted on 05/09/2016 12:17:10 PM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: Mr. K

And drink deeply of their tears of despair.


44 posted on 05/09/2016 12:19:20 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: TEXOKIE

It came from Cruz campaign people and there was also a story on Politico last week that said he was one of the top candidates for Attorney General. The hot headed critics would certainly be perplexed but if Ted provides an honest persuasive statement about this it would probably settle things with quite a few.


45 posted on 05/09/2016 12:20:46 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Innovative

Yeah ut they won’t.

Just like they shoved Bush in as Reagan’s VP


46 posted on 05/09/2016 12:21:19 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Williams

shhhh don’t say that the Levinites will attack


47 posted on 05/09/2016 12:22:04 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Mamzelle

Donald Trump is truly the revenge of Sarah Palin.


48 posted on 05/09/2016 12:22:10 PM PDT by Company Man (Trump towers.)
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To: Innovative

“...there’s no remaining talk of snatching the nomination away from him with a contested, multi-ballot battle...”

Good. That bullcrap really needed to cease. The people have spoken. It’s the party’s job to listen to us, and to act accordingly.

The Republicans haven’t had an identifiable leader in so long, many of them don’t know how to act when a real boss finally shows up.


49 posted on 05/09/2016 12:22:30 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Snowybear

I agree.... the man DOES know how to put on a show!!! He won’t do the pathetic fan blowing confetti al la John Kasich. We’re gonna see some honest to Gosh get-with-the-program CONFETTI! .... and more!


50 posted on 05/09/2016 12:23:57 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Publius

LOL! Thanks. I’ll check it out. I liked that story when I read it a number of years ago. Probably worth reading it again WITH a guide! :-D


51 posted on 05/09/2016 12:26:37 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: DarthVader

Thanks for the elaboration. We definitely live in interesting times. I thank God every day I am getting to see all this! What a roller coaster!!


52 posted on 05/09/2016 12:29:09 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Nifster

I agree Nifster. I hope he avoids being weighed down with an elitist anchor like Reagan was.


53 posted on 05/09/2016 12:30:07 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE

You will get so much more out of it with our guide than without. Rand quotes a variety of economists and philosophers without attribution. We did the homework and provide a better learning experience.


54 posted on 05/09/2016 12:32:20 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Innovative

It appears quite clear that the single and ONLY goal of the anti-Trump forces is to stop Trump. Oh, the SAY that it is to put a “conservative” in place...but if someone like Mitt Romney or Jeb would be an acceptable alternative, then clearly the whole concept of “conservative” is just a talking point, nothing more.

So I’d like to ask these people what, exactly, they think will happen if they happen to succeed? I will answer that question:

1) They succeed in full by running a third party candidate, who wins the election against both Trump and Hillary; or

2) They partially succeed by running a third party candidate, who doesn’t win, but who does stop Trump by making sure that the Republican vote is split - leaving the White House to Clinton; or

3) They fail, with the third party candidate not getting enough votes (E.V.s, actually) to stop Trump, and Trump wins.

OK, let’s analyze these outcomes. The first is highly unlikely to come about. First, of course, no other Republican came that close to Trump in the primaries to begin with, so the odds of doing better now that many of his opponents have endorsed him for the nomination and the 2016 General Election are about nil. Further, even if the proposed third party candidate was extremely popular, he is unlikely to prevail over both the Republican and the Democrat. The closest that any third party (i.e. not Dem or Pubbie) candidate has come to winning the Presidency since 1853 was in 1912, when EXTREMELY popular ex-President Teddy Roosevelt ran against both then-President Taft (his hand-picked successor, who “strayed” from what TR wanted) and Wilson. The result? TR and Taft together would have smashed Wilson, but they largely split the vote and let in Wilson. We got the income tax, the Fed and the 17th Amendment during Wilson’s term, not to mention WW1 and the League of (some) Nations.

Outcome #2 is the most likely - see 1992.

Outcome #3 could happen - i.e. it doesn’t matter WHAT these people do, they lose and Trump wins.

OK, so let’s analyze how this turns out for the anti-Trumpers. Outcome #1 would be fantastic (for them), but is exceptionally unlikely. There would be no repercussions for them, though a large part of the Republican base would likely be thoroughly disgusted.

Outcome #2 basically destroys the Republican Party. I do not see how these people come out better off than with Trump as President, as the destruction down-ballot will make the Republican lobbyists, etc. be of little value. Further, they make Hillary the POTUS, with little doubt that the doors of immigration will be thrown open so as to completely destroy any hope of any Republican winning the White House in the future. Further, HRC will appoint 3-5 Supreme Court Justices, making the Court an arm of the Dem Party for the next generation (at least). I REALLY don’t think that they’ve thought this one through.

Outcome #3 leaves the anti-Trumpers in the worst possible position - they accomplished nothing, and now the POTUS has blood in his eye and a great opportunity to really put the screws to them.


There is, of course, a 4th option - to do what those who haven’t prevailed in the primaries have done in virtually every other election in our history, which is to swallow their pride and work with the winner to ensure that the party wins the General Election. That does 2 important things: first, it prevents HRC from becoming POTUS, with all that such would bring with it; second, they’d have a place at the table, some cabinet positions, lobbying and journalism jobs intact, and a party base that wouldn’t be completely and forever angry with them.

My recommendation is that the anti-Trump faction of the Republican Party choose Door #4, for all of the reasons stated above.


55 posted on 05/09/2016 12:34:42 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Innovative
As they say, Extinction is final...
56 posted on 05/09/2016 12:35:15 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: Innovative
perhaps with fights over the platform or even his vice presidential pick.

Amazing... Lindsay Graham keeps saying that Obama is entitled to the Cabinet appointments that he wants, but our nominee is NOT entitled to his own Vice-President?

-PJ

57 posted on 05/09/2016 12:36:59 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: DarthVader

[If true the NeverTrump movement will be virtually destroyed as I bet he will make a compelling case to his supporters to do so.]

If true, they will call Cruz a sellout and will try to convince Glenn Beck or Mark Levin to run third party...


58 posted on 05/09/2016 12:43:25 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: TEXOKIE

Me too.

If he is I hope he continues to wear bullet proof vests....probably ought to hire a food taster as well


59 posted on 05/09/2016 12:48:50 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: demkicker
It's about the Supreme Court

About that Supreme Court. The nation is GONE if another backstabbing pro-globalism elitist chooses the nominees. If it isn't someone who actually believes in the Constitution and in the nation-state, what's the point of caring about the courts?

Another reason for Trump, and only Trump.

60 posted on 05/09/2016 12:51:53 PM PDT by grania
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