Posted on 05/05/2016 3:40:16 AM PDT by SJackson
You are looking at this through western eyes. Which in this case is insane. Putin, and the Russians, are not western. They still see war the way war should be. The absolute destruction of the enemy.
Are they recent immigrants to Europe? Kill them.
Do they have mosques that they attend? Kill every one who goes to the mosque.
Do they have copies of the Koran in their homes? Kill every person who can quote any part of the Koran.
Do they look Arabic? Kill every one who looks remotely Arabic (after all, they are not Russian so who really cares if they die?)
Do they wear any item of moslem garb (hijab etc)? kill them.
Are they on record as ever having attended a moslem school? Kill them.
Is there any record of them visiting a moslem country as more than just a very short term tourist? Kill them.
It is relatively simple for someone with a large enough army to eradicate moslems from any area. As long as they don't mind inflicting some collateral damage that is. And the Russians (as easily seen from Chechnya) don't mind collateral damage.
Sure the entire world will rise up and scream and stamp their feet at the "culticide" of the moslems, but not one country will so much as lift a finger to stop it. What could they really do short of nuclear war?
The main reason we (the west) have become incompetent at war is that we refuse to kill the enemy lest we hurt some collateral's feelings. Our leadership has been pussified. We've become too weak to nuke mecca and other places that desperately need it, why would we risk all out nuclear war against Russia?
The article asks how Europe would respond to a Russian invasion. That is simple to answer. They would roll over and start learning to speak Russian. Look at how Europe has responded to the moslem invasion.
Exactly correct.
War has become not only inevitable, but necessary
If we do not go to war against islam, we will cease to exist. (much of western civilization has already been lost)
“...he will have his 4-8 years ...”
Things are moving fast around the world for some reason, I suspect (but this is not a prediction) that he will be tested soon after being sworn into office.
If Putin decides on grant theft, in the form of global war, the question answers itself. That also means he would not "run out of money" if he succeeds, not with Obama as his strongest opposition. He could even, with the right public relations campaign, argue that he was liberating/saving/preserving the West and Christianity. I'm not advocating another major power war, just pointing out that it is not out of the question.
“Things are moving fast around the world for some reason,”
I think society changed (for the worse) much faster in the 20 years after I graduated high school than it did for my father. The tattoos and piercings are one of many examples of this.
I never seen muslims when I was a teenager. Now they are everywhere.
Trump will be tested. It will probably be a massive terrorist attack.
“Things are moving fast around the world for some reason,”
I think society changed (for the worse) much faster in the 20 years after I graduated high school than it did for my father. The tattoos and piercings are one of many examples of this.
I never seen muslims when I was a teenager. Now they are everywhere.
Trump will be tested. It will probably be a massive terrorist attack.
The countries you mentioned have seldom been independent and were Russian or Soviet provinces. They are the Russian equivalent of Catalonia or Wales. I was addressing Russian designs on the old Warsaw Pact satellite nations and Western Europe.
Crappola.nuke that big black rock.
Nuke Tehran and put moosies on notice they will be next if they step out of line.
Like Teddy said,
Carry a big stick.
Instead of how our magic negro jive ass punk handles things
It's foolish to have any other perspective.
I oppose American troops anywhere too, except that it was pointed out to me that the value of our dollar is influenced greatly by the presence of our military around the world.
3rd worlders and even Europeans get a warm feeling of confidence knowing US troops are nearby. We are a force for stability across the globe, and lesser developed people know it.
Our dollar is no longer backed by anything of value. It is only the confidence of people that gives it value. Once that confidence erodes, the value of the dollar also erodes.
I am about to have a baby. In the interest of raw survival I desire to get her on solid food before America is thrust into extreme poverty, which I think is inevitable. So yeah, bring back our troops, but in 2 years!
Amen
How about Western Europe pays for its own defense and if it means ditching the welfare state then so be it.
I’m quite sure that the Obama administration has prepared a barrage of scathing diplomatic letters and self-righteous hashtags that it can roll out at a moment’s notice in case Putin should attempt such a thing.
From Putin’s viewpoint, the remaining days of a lame-duck Obama presidency must surely appear to be a “wasting asset” (to borrow a term from the realm of finance).
Are we approaching a critical “act now or forever hold your peace” confrontation in the making? Would Putin seriously be tempted to make some moves that would take Western governments by surprise?
I dunno, but it’s reasonable for more sober analysts to ask the question and perform some mental “what-if’s”...
Nukes would fly, everyone would die.
Nukes would not be used. Nukes will never be used in warfare again.
You’re joking, right?
If you actually believe that, you’re... uh... wrong.
To put it very politely.
I wrote an article for a newspaper in Phoenix, AZ right after the attack in Beslan. I opined that Putin would maintain his power-base in Russia by doing exactly what you listed against the Chechen Islamists. Putin did exactly that and the mass of the Russian populace voted for him and kept him in power at every single instance.
That has always been the Russian answer to enemies both foreign and domestic. And they see the Islamists as their primary enemy.
“this proposed force will not be large enough to be anything more than a token “trip wire,” which in 1956, 1962 or 1968, could have triggered a U.S. nuclear response – a response which today would be inconceivable.”
ORLY ? ? ?
“Inconceivable” to whom?
Other than the Commie-In-Chief in the White Mosque, that is.
It seems like an anachronism to be talking about Russia invading Europe. The far bigger concern now is the creeping jihad.
We’ve already lost Europe and should completely vacate the premises. All the American blood spent saving Europe from D-Day on appears to be a fruitless pursuit.
Given the demographic/cultural shift to a Muslim Europe, WHY the Hell would Russia want Europe???
In a sense, the world only has two choices:
a) A muslim Europe
b) A Europe taken over by Russia
Pick your poison...
A communist governing Europe would be far better than the Caliphate. After all, we already have communism-lite running Europe. At least with Putin controlling Europe, things would be more “honest.”
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