seeing's how the Bundeswehr isn't allowed to work overtime anymore, if they attack after 5:00 it'll be even easier
Posted on 05/05/2016 3:40:16 AM PDT by SJackson
To win a decisive, world-historic victory, of course.
Why else would a conqueror do such a thing? To build schools for girls and distribute COEXIST bumper stickers?
Don't be ridiculous.
Islame has been at war with mankind for 1400 years. They’re just waiting for the latest invasion force to overpopulate/enslave the indigenous.
seeing's how the Bundeswehr isn't allowed to work overtime anymore, if they attack after 5:00 it'll be even easier
Uh hello, what about air power? That’s what prevented the invasion threat during the cold war. I have not read that the west has ceded air supremacy to the russians yet.
I agree with you. A Russian invasion of Europe would save Europe from the Muslims. If this never happens, Muslims will eventually take over.
If the Muslims, he posited, ever unleashed their large and fanatical forces across the Mediterranean Sea - through Turkey, Greece, Italy and beyond – no European Socialist government would have the will to stop them.
There, fixed that.
Who would want Europe. Too many Muslims.
At this point in time I think it’s ridiculous to even contemplate this scenario. A much more realistic discussion would be what if Putin wanted to take back the former soviet satellite now NATO member Baltic States? Would we come to defend them as we are bound in the NATO charter or send a strongly worded letter to Putin? If I were Estonian, I’d be checking out the Russian Federation healthcare plan, just in case....
Interesting article
What will trump do? Time to rethink our strategy and goals for sure
watched the first few months of the war in Syria pretty closely and did not see indiscriminate Russian bombing or brutality although we are both fighting an enemy who,invites this for propaganda purposes
It’s become pretty clear we are not in Europe to “ save” anyone at least militarily
We are there so if the russians invade they have to kill Americans, which makes us part of the war
Ditto with South Korea vs the north
If Putin invaded Europe?
He already has invaded Ukraine which is the biggest country in Europe
It is putins bombing in Syria and his puppets at the gate in Greece that is flooding Europe with Muslims
Uh...a couple of things: Europe WAS the Nazis. If anybody did the saving, it was the USSR.
Most wars begin with a miscalculation of how people (or leaders) will react to some event.
The “one world government” people see allowing the unrestricted invasion by Muslims into Europe as a a good thing.
The actual citizens of Europe not so much.
And I expect the Muslims have their own agenda.
Donald Trump as President does not fit their plans (they had complete control over Bush).
All these forces are coming to a head. What is going to happen?
I sometimes think we are reliving the years leading up to WWI when the world leaders ignored the will of the people, and all worked on their own agenda, and we know how bad that turned out.
Putin has invaded Ukraine and Georgia and Moldava
You must be joking
Sometimes when posting on these threads we can all agree that we do not have to spell out what every word means.
When I use the term EUROPE I am referring to Western Europe, our allies for the past 60 or so years.
But I appreciate your input, it reminds me I sometimes have to be more specific in my post in case someone can not understand what is implied even if not stated.
Did we pour it all into the sands of Iraq and Afghanistan? Did we simply dismantle the greatest military force in history? Have we forgot all he hard-earned experience from Gulf War I, Gulf War II, the occupation of Iraq, the invasion of Afghanistan? Is all that hard-earned combat experience somehow down the rat hole? Are all our gizmo weapons suddenly outclassed or just outnumbered?
Donald Trump, characteristically thoughtless, says he will build up the military and equally characteristically he has declined to provide us with many details. It seems to me that a thorough assessment of our present condition in the wake of Obama is urgently required. You can't fix it if you don't know what is broke. Nor is there much point in fixing it if you don't know what you're going to use it for, in other words, what sort of force do we need in the middle and more distant future? Are we merely to fight Muslim countries, are we really to prepare to defend a Russian incursion across the Fulda gap? Are we to be able to fight a two front war, also against an aggressive China in the South China Sea or elsewhere?
These questions apply to new technologies but they are as ancient as warfare itself and certainly as old as the nation. America has almost always chosen a side of un- preparedness and has done so up until the aftermath of World War II, or better put, the aftermath of the Korean War, or perhaps the Vietnam War. We seem always to play catch-up and we got away with it over the centuries because we were protected by two oceans.
Oceans are now negotiated by ICBMs at the speed of sound or faster and provide no real margins. One hears again the same people who urged us to fight the enemy in Iraq and Afghanistan so that "we will have to fight them here" now telling us that we have no national interest in safeguarding Europe. They were wrong about Iraq and Afghanistan (so was I in the beginning) and they are wrong about Europe today. Probably these are the same people that think we can impose 45% tariffs and maintain a depression free 21st-century economy.
As always in our history, we need facts not slogans. That will be the job of Donald Trump if he gets the office. The candidate can prevail with slogans, a commander-in-chief needs a real army. If Hillary gets the office, we know what the answer will be. Trump eventually will have to explain the nuts and bolts of his undertaking to shore up the military and he will have to get it through Congress as free as possible of pork which enfeebles the reform process.
It would be well if Trump began to switch from slogans to reality now.
Just a caveat, but a lot of the materiel that Russia has in storage (as alluded to in this article) is pre-Korea-War vintage. That’s not to say that the T-34 isn’t a revolutionary design, and considered the most “perfect” tank design going, but it’s a little dated at this point. A lot of those artillery guns “in storage” still have the harnesses for the horses to pull them.
It’s certainly possible that Russia would drag them all out and crew them with the largely-untrained 2 million reservists, sending them in as expendable assets in a war of attrition. And Europe would lose quite a lot of their non-expendable supplies destroying them (and even 60-year-old cannons and 70-year-old tanks can still blow things up), before Russia’s modern units took the field.
But I doubt it.
I think you are right about Trump, he isn’t part of their plans. However, he will have his 4-8 years and then the downward slide will continue here; it wasn’t put on hold elsewhere though.
Yeah, the European governments are ignoring the will of their people. No one wants those Muslims, and they keep trucking them in. We are doing it to. Look at Minneapolis. That used to be a beautiful city, now it has a large amount of Somalis. Why did we bring them here?
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