Posted on 05/04/2016 3:47:02 PM PDT by marvel5
“Russia has not accepted the hand of partnership,” says NATO commander, Gen. Philip Breedlove, “but has chosen a path of belligerence.” But why should Putin see NATO’s inexorable eastward march as an extended “hand of partnership”?
Had we lost the Cold War and Russian spy planes began to patrol off Pensacola, Norfolk and San Diego, how would U.S. F-16 pilots have reacted? If we awoke to find Mexico, Canada, Cuba, and most of South America in a military alliance against us, welcoming Russian bases and troops, would we regard that as “the hand of partnership”?
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I seem to remember the U.S. and Russia were working together.
Then Secretary of State Clinton came along with her misspelled RESET button.
Since then everything has been a disaster for the U.S.
0bama, Kerry, Hillary.
You can’t deny the protests/riots/war in Ukrain was an Obama/Soros Production.
As is the Jihadi Invasion of Europe and the Unacompanied Minors from Latin America.
I’m putting 200 dollars on my ex fiance.
if if if, but we didn’t. And the countries liberated from communism have every right to be free and independent and if we can help, we should. Don’t try to use moral equivalency here, its apples and oranges.
I remember it starting with a G20 conference or something in St. Petersburg. And President homo Obama was enraged at the anti-homo recruiting of children laws.
He made a HUGE deal over it and pouted when he was there.
Then Russia stopped kids from being adopted by Americans because we refused to guarantee they wouldn’t go to perverts.
Then we were using NGOs to spread homo propaganda and trying to fund his opposition, so they were expelled.
It’s all gone south from there.
Russia is also a “countr[y] liberated from communism,” which has embraced conservative values, which is why the Cultural Marxist West in the form of the USG/EUSSR must destroy it.
In the new Cold War, the US is the leader of the International Left, and Russia is the leader of the International Right. Total role reversal.
NATO, Bill Clinton, G. Bush & Barack Obama.
Their biggest fear is Putin declaring Russia to be a White Christian Nation. That would make it the only White Christian Nation on Earth. Also the nation with the worlds largest stockpile of nuclear weapons.
The world would see the single largest migration of highly motivated, educated, capable men and women in the history if the world. Brain drain x100,000,000.
If they had been satellite nations oppressed by us for half a century, I wouldn't blame them. Otherwise, it's a baseless argument.
Not to worry, If Hillary gets the nomination, she will fully blame Bush for this. Poor sap can’t take blame for anything she has done
I wish Buchanan, who writes very well, would get his history straight.
It was the Russians under Putin who assassinated their own people, be it inside Russia or even London or the US.
It was Putin who invaded Georgia, not the US.
It was Putin who invaded Ukraine, not the US.
It was a Soviet Admiral who said that all his nuclear submarine missiles were aimed at the US. Not the US (we had better have a lot aimed at Red China and No. Korea and a couple for Iran).
It is Russian aircraft and ships who are playing “chicken” on the high seas and in the air (traditional coastal “spy” missions are excepted - bombing raid training, not so).
It is Russia who is slaughtering unarmed civilians in Aleppo and US allies in Syria who are resisting both Assad and ISIS.
Other than that Mrs. Lincoln (Buchanan), “How did you enjoy the play”?
Buchanan does have his facts right.
There is no evidence Putin has assassinated anyone.
Even the EU found that Georgia started the 2008 war when Russian peacekeepers were attacked in S. Ossetia. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/30/georgia-attacks-unjustifiable-eu (”An investigation into last year’s Russia-Georgia war delivered a damning indictment of President Mikheil Saakashvili today, accusing Tbilisi of launching an indiscriminate artillery barrage on the city of Tskhinvali that started the war.”)
Russia has not “invaded,” Ukkraine, despite the fact the US fostered the overthrow of the legitimately elected Ukrainian government and the Russia people in Crimea and the East rebelled. (How can the overthrow of the legitimate government in Kiev be applauded, while rebellion against the illegal overthrow is condemned?) No Russia invasion, per
(1) Ukraine’s own military chief of staff, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNx2DvY3qaw; (2) French intelligence, https://www.rt.com/news/248877-france-ukraine-russian-military/ (original source: French National Assembly website); (3) German intelligence http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/germany-concerned-about-aggressive-nato-stance-on-ukraine-a-1022193.html; (4) retired German NATO general, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1p7NsWvog8;(5) OSCE, http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150806/1025453919.html
“Soviet Admiral?” The Soviet Union no longer exists.
Russia isn’t provoking the US in the Gulf of Mexico or the Caribbean as the US is doing to Russia in the Baltic 5,000 miles away.
The US and its evil allies Saudi Arabia and Turkey are supporting and supplying the head choppers who attacked Aleppo in the first place. Russia is attacking ISIS. al Nusra, and the “moderate” rebels who fight right alongside them. US presence in Syria is totally illegal, unlike Russia’s which is at the behest of the internationally recognized government.
Obama, Hillary, Kerry
Until the1960s that’s just what they were.
“Until the 1960s that’s just what they were.” Central/South American banana republics.
Moral equivalizing runs rampant - not unknown here.
Until the New Left rose in the 1960s, the start of WWII dated to 1931, when Imperial Japan invaded northeast mainland China: a belief accepted by many in the US and NATO, if not universally. One only needs to take a short walk (very short) through the political cartoons of the late Sir David Low to confirm it..
USSR and the Western Allies made common cause in 1941-45 out of strategic desperation and the convenience of the moment (given that Nazi Germany insisted on invading the USSR). Much ink was spilt on propaganda, in convincing the Western populace to believe the Reds became “real” allies.
Higher leadership in the West was under no such illusion.
Unavoidably, many among the common folk then took the illusion to be real. Left/Progressive and Communist elements in the west struggled to keep the unwashed masses lulled in that sense.
When various nations south of the border began toying with Left/Progressive revolt, USSR and its useful idiots worked hard to make all of it look morally acceptable, by punching up the transgressions of the colonial powers - which pretty much folded and left the game across the world.
Today, almost none of the ex-colonies are better off.
Soviet Russia had set its sights on regional expansion and worldwide dominion long before 1931. 1988-1998 (or so) marked only a slight deviation from that course of action. As soon as CIS got back on its feet economically, it embarked on a modernization and arms buildup program that has been matching the highest levels of effort the US put in, in the 1980s.
The only sure way to get CIS and PRC to back down is to match them in strength and willpower (ruthlessness). Goes for the Islamics too. It’s all they respect.
Agreed. Her plan was to take out all the secular dictators on the idea they were bad guys, not realizing they were controlling even worse thugs, and to act like Russia was still the USSR when they are our natural allies against the rising tide of Islamo-fascism.
Who started the “Second Cold War?”
Apologies for inattentive proofing.
It only takes one to make a quarrel.
Mostly, the US and the West cannot summon the will to respond, even when CIS, PRC, and the Islamics are breathing down our necks. So it’s them.
Unless one cares to make the case that the United States invited it, by its short attention span, mulish indifference to what’s going down on other shores, and the self-congratulatory, self-regarding conceit that we are somehow so morally “special” (Shining City on a Hill and all that), that we are entitled to ignore goings-on elsewhere.
An odious attitude, that flirted with disaster in the Second World War, and does not promise to bring much success these days.
Try the words “Polonium”, the facial disfiguring of an Ukrainian leader, Soviet troops inside the Ukraine (their new artillery literally burns opposition troops alive - I’ve seen the photos), Soviet KGB “retired” leaders such as Grilkov, leading the Donest movement, etc.
Those Russian tanks in Georgia were real.
You’ve been listening to Prof. Stephen Cohen way too much on the John Batchelor Show. One day we will read that Cohen was a longtime Soviet asset, probably KGB but GRU is not improbable. Criticisms of him being the top Soviet apologist go back at least to an article in the Wash. Post in 1980 and his marriage to Katrina Van Den Heuvel of the Marxist “The Nation” adds a lot of weight to his Marxist sympathies. For decades The Nation was run by covert but identified Communist Party USA member/organizer Carey McWilliams among others.
I don’t know Russia would fear the Ukraine being in NATO since the Ukes are not going to invade it. Nor is Poland, or Hungary, or the Baltic States or the US. This is purely as Russian fantasy that is swallowed whole by some in the West.
Soviet Admiral. I believe he was before he morphed into a Russian Admiral. You have to work your way up the ranks and that meant starting in the old Soviet Navy (which just changed its name to the Russian Navy).
After all, many SFB leaders today, including Putin, started out in its predecessor the KGB, just as KGB agents earlier worked for the NKVD and the Cheka.
Re Saudi Arabia and Turkey. What did you expect from them?
Unfortunately we have to deal with them as the lesser of many evils but if you think I trust either of them, you are wrong.
Russia’s indiscriminate bombing in Syria is NOT recognized by the US, UN, the EU etc. In fact, Doctors Without Borders has condemned Russia for its knowingly directed attacks on their hospitals (one of their last doctors in Aleppo was killed the other day). Notice I used the word “knowingly” as opposed to “accidental” (I’m anticipating your reply re Afghanistan). Forget it. I played that game with the reds over Bach Mai Hospital in Hanoi during the war. It was accidental, PERIOD.
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