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Congress to Air Force: You Can't Retire the A-10 Until the F-35 Proves It's Better
Popular Mechanics ^ | Apr 27, 2016 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 04/28/2016 12:03:53 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

Congress to Air Force: You Can't Retire the A-10 Until the F-35 Proves It's Better

Legislators want proof the F-35 can take over the aging tank-killer's job

Congress threw down the gauntlet at the Air Force on Monday, introducing legislation to mandate keeping the A-10 Thunderbolt II—affectionately known as the Warthog—in service until the service can prove the new F-35 Joint Strike Fighter can take over its job.

As reported by DefenseNews, Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee Mack Thornberry has introduced legislation to forbid the Air Force from retiring the plane. Thornberry's proposed law would prohibit the Air Force from using funds to retire the A-10, and would forbid the service from reducing manning levels for the aircraft. It would further mandate the Air Force keep a minimum of 171 A-10s in active service.

Thornberry's law would keep the A-10 in service until the results of a 2018 competition between the A-10 and F-35A are complete. The two planes will engage in a fly-off, performing various ground support duties, to see which is the most capable in supporting troops on the ground. ..................

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: a10; aviation; congress; f35; jointstrike
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1 posted on 04/28/2016 12:03:54 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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Great plane. It’ll be useful in cleaning out the ISIS sewers


2 posted on 04/28/2016 12:07:40 PM PDT by captain_dave
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Like the bean counters would every let the Air Force risk a 100 million dollar plane to fly low and slow to take out tanks. I am thinking that the Warthog will be around longer than the F35 gold-plated brick.


3 posted on 04/28/2016 12:08:13 PM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Dang i love that thing!

the top stuka pilot in the luftwaffe was an advisor for that plane.


4 posted on 04/28/2016 12:09:03 PM PDT by gaijin
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That plane is the Army combat soldier’s best friend. I guess that’s why the Air Force hates it so much.


5 posted on 04/28/2016 12:09:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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So...run a test on the F-35 where it has to find 2 tanks...destroy them and then return the pilot safely to base after being shot full of holes by small arms fire and a few 30mm volleys.

Chances are the F-35 would be a smoking hole in the ground after a less than a hundred .22 longs hit it.

6 posted on 04/28/2016 12:09:41 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackOlivesMatter)
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Talk about the plane that wouldn’t die....

;o)


7 posted on 04/28/2016 12:09:51 PM PDT by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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There were weapons systems ( smaller, more powerful ) that could have got the F-35 closer to that goal, but they were all cancelled.


8 posted on 04/28/2016 12:12:42 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: gaijin

I bet they had also studied the Russian Stormovik.


9 posted on 04/28/2016 12:13:24 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Try,just try using the same gun to shoot quail and hunt elephants. Nearly impossible. Air superoirity fighter/bombers and close in ground attack.planes are fundamentally different. An F35 also costs many multiples of what an A 10 costs. All this makes me wonder if the real purpose of phasing out the A 10 is actually to weaken the military because the A 10 does its job so well.


10 posted on 04/28/2016 12:15:34 PM PDT by libstripper
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AF staff definitely favors/stresses/budgets for fighter planes. Lost interest in A-10 almost immediately upon initial production.

Shame Congress does not 'give' A-10 to Army and/or Marines.

11 posted on 04/28/2016 12:16:58 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (Was addicted to the Hokey Pokey...but I turned myself around...((@))
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With those instrucions it’ll be around longer than the B-52, ehheheheheheheh..


12 posted on 04/28/2016 12:18:16 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Talk about the plane that wouldn’t die....

Army or Marine Corp need to be 'given control' over this most valuable assest.

13 posted on 04/28/2016 12:19:18 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (Was addicted to the Hokey Pokey...but I turned myself around...((@))
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And the winner is ... as if you expected different ... the F-35.


14 posted on 04/28/2016 12:21:06 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Shame Congress does not 'give' A-10 to Army and/or Marines.

Amen to that. If they didn't want it, why not let us have it?

15 posted on 04/28/2016 12:21:15 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: gaijin

Thanks for that comment, made me scan the biography of Hans-Ulrich Rudel.


16 posted on 04/28/2016 12:25:23 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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“I am thinking that the Warthog will be around longer than the F35 gold-plated brick.”

That STILL doesn’t work!


17 posted on 04/28/2016 12:25:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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Given that at the highest levels, Generals ARE politicians, I would not be a bit surprised if word came down to pilots flying the A-10 in such tests, to ‘fix’ the test so the F-35 wins.


18 posted on 04/28/2016 12:27:48 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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In Billy-boy’s Serbian adventure F-16’s were supposed to conduct ground support missions - from 15,000 feet.

Watch for the perfumed pencil-pushers of the USAF to try to rig the competition between the F-35 and the A-10 to put the Warthog at a severe disadvantage.

I recall years ago when F-15E pilots were squealing about the unfairness of going up against Warthogs in close air support competitions because they got their butts handed to them.

Close air support means low and slow. Air superiority means high and fast. What’s so hard to understand about that?


19 posted on 04/28/2016 12:28:07 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% red.)
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To: libstripper

Bingo. My thoughts also.


20 posted on 04/28/2016 12:29:05 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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