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Ted Cruz Attacks Trump Over Support For Transgender Men "Pretending" To Be Women
Real Clear Polirtics ^ | April 22nd, 2016 | By Tim Hains

Posted on 04/22/2016 11:51:18 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: dynoman

No one is under any obligation to show an ID; however a person who is clearly of the wrong sex can be forced to leave, presuming they are not made legally untouchable by uttering “transsexual”.


121 posted on 04/22/2016 4:24:50 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Bob434

[[Not legally they can’t-]]

No sh*t, Sherlock. Just want you to know that I stopped reading right there.

That’s why crimes are called crimes and are against the law, and they remain as such.

Nothing’s changed.

Don’t waste my time with obvious please.

Incidentally, there are gay men in the bathroom with us all the time, they might even be trying to see our weeners or fantasizing about doing things with us.

There are also children who are, in fact, violent sex offenders. Yes, those exist.

I don’t really know or believe that this is INCREASING the risk of anything, because the risk is ALWAYS there anyway.

There are bad people all over, they come in all shapes and sizes and genders, just like I said.


122 posted on 04/22/2016 5:11:59 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: jwalsh07; dynoman

Lol, agreed. Weird & obsessive spam posts on multiple threads today.


123 posted on 04/22/2016 5:17:14 PM PDT by indcons (Lurker mode mostly)
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To: chris37

See post 111. You are just plain wrong.


124 posted on 04/22/2016 5:25:07 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: indcons

No kidding. Taking it personal with ad hominems is really weird for FR. We all know why people make it personal and call names though. Pretty transparent.


125 posted on 04/22/2016 5:26:38 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“Transgenderism is dangerous, with statistical evidence showing that Transgenders are significantly more likely to prey on children.”

You are going to have to prove this to me before I believe it.

Furthermore, there are pedophiles looking to prey on victims around us all the time. They prey on boys in the men’s room.

There are gay men in the men’s room. There are gay women in the ladies room.

If you are particularly worried about going in the restroom, then don’t go in.


126 posted on 04/22/2016 5:52:15 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: odawg

Now, I promise you, show me where Trump said that a grown man pretending to be a woman should be allowed to use the women’s restroom and I will send him $500.

This what Trump said, do you agree with him?

Transgender people should be able to use whatever bathroom they want, Donald Trump said Thursday.


127 posted on 04/22/2016 6:01:14 PM PDT by Rock N Jones (s)
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To: Mariner

“The bathroom deal is a big fat nothing burger. The exception thing in the platform is worrisome, but it more realistically reflects the standard GOP position which is basically a cowardly do nothing but lie to the voters position about something they plan to mostly ignore except when campaigning and asking for donations.” Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3422979/posts?page=1376#1376


128 posted on 04/22/2016 6:09:37 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When The Ballot No Longer Counts, The Ammo Box Does! What's In Your Ammo Box?(US Conservative)!)
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To: chris37

If you don’t already know these facts listed on the American Psychiatric Association website, or Wikipedia, or American Medical Association, then you do not want to know. 400 years of American legal precedent protected our children in their most vulnerable state (showers, toilets, locker room) from predators. Forcing law abiding American citizens to put their children in harms way for the sake of political correctness is evil. You can go to hell, or you can stand up for children. Jesus made the choice clear to all who have an ear.


129 posted on 04/22/2016 6:15:59 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: chris37

If you don’t already know these facts listed on the American Psychiatric Association website, or Wikipedia, or American Medical Association, then you do not want to know. 400 years of American legal precedent protected our children in their most vulnerable state (showers, toilets, locker room) from predators. Forcing law abiding American citizens to put their children in harms way for the sake of political correctness is evil. You can go to hell, or you can stand up for children. Jesus made the choice clear to all who have an ear.


130 posted on 04/22/2016 6:16:10 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I believe that a gay man is more likely to be a pedophile, and is likely to prey on young boys, and has access to the same bathroom as young boys.

But I don’t know that a transgender person is more likely to be a pedophile, and i don’t think that you can prove that.

And no one is forced to put their children in harms way.

You can go in there with them, as parents often do, or you can have them not go in there.

Danger and risk has always existed in public places.


131 posted on 04/22/2016 6:27:08 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Rock N Jones

“This what Trump said, do you agree with him?

Transgender people should be able to use whatever bathroom they want, Donald Trump said Thursday.”

So you admit he didn’t call for grown men pretending to be women....

I think the whole thing is sick. It is a contrived issue designed to be a snare for anyone who opens his mouth on whatever side and whatever they say.

There is more a hazard for male perverts going into male bathrooms.

Does anyone actually allow their little ones to go into a public restroom alone? I have never seen that happen.

For hygiene reasons, the little ones in my family don’t go period.


132 posted on 04/22/2016 7:29:17 PM PDT by odawg
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To: chris37

[[No sh*t, Sherlock. Just want you to know that I stopped reading right there.]]

Ditto- what kind of juvenile reply is that?

[[Incidentally, there are gay men in the bathroom with us all the time, they might even be trying to see our weeners or fantasizing about doing things with us.]]

Obviously you missed the whole point of everything i stated-

[[Don’t waste my time with obvious please.]]

Evidently the obvious isn’t so obvious to you-


133 posted on 04/22/2016 8:09:15 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Jan_Sobieski

[[If you don’t already know these facts listed on the American Psychiatric Association website, or Wikipedia, or American Medical Association, then you do not want to know.]]

Precisely-


134 posted on 04/22/2016 8:10:29 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Jan_Sobieski

[[400 years of American legal precedent protected our children in their most vulnerable state (showers, toilets, locker room) from predators.]]

exactly, now people, trump and supporters and the left- want to do away with these protections and use the excuse ‘gay people use bathrooms- therefore we should allow it’ nonsense-

[[Forcing law abiding American citizens to put their children in harms way for the sake of political correctness is evil. ]]

Trump supporters will never cede this point- because to do so is to admit a mistake by trump- and that can’t happen apparently- They will defend the indefensible till the end- Most people realize that opening the door to perverts using opposite bathrooms is a bad bad idea- but those who support doing so can’t seem to understand it IS putting kids at greater risk0- they either can’t understand that or they don’t care about children- hopefully it’s not the latter- but it sure seems as though it might be sadly-

[[Forcing law abiding American citizens to put their children in harms way for the sake of political correctness is evil.]]

That one sentence right there is the bottom line- it’s evil- and no amount of explanation by those who support doing that will change that fact-


135 posted on 04/22/2016 8:18:12 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Mariner

Where is Cruz’s bill to fix the bathrooms?

He still is a senator isn’t he?

All mouth... no action...

Typical GOP

It’s all about fund-raising, never accountability


136 posted on 04/22/2016 8:34:32 PM PDT by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Canadian... denying Americans the right to vote...but he's a principled constiutional conservative)
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To: Bob434

It was a perfectly legitimate reply, because I said-

[[Anyone can walk in there anytime they want to and victimize anyone they are able to right now everywhere in the world.]]

And then you said-

“Not legally they can’t-”

Which is really no sh*t, Sherlock deserving comment, because not only was it illegal to walk in there anytime they want and victimize anyone, it is still illegal to walk in anywhere they want and victimize people.

Behaving in a lewd manner in a restroom or assaulting someone in a restroom was a crime, and it is still a crime, and it has not been legalized by allowing transgender people into the restroom.

And I did not miss the whole point of everything you stated, I simply didn’t even bother to read it, because your first statement was so stupidly obvious and ridiculous than I didn’t feel the need to ponder anything else you had to say.

Someone allowing a transgender person into the restroom that they think that they should use is NOT GIVING A LICENSE FOR PEOPLE TO COMMIT SEX CRIMES IN THE DAMN BATHROOM! SEX CRIMES IN THE BATHROOM ARE STILL ILLEGAL AS THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN!


137 posted on 04/22/2016 8:43:39 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: chris37

[[NOT GIVING A LICENSE FOR PEOPLE TO COMMIT SEX CRIMES IN THE DAMN BATHROOM! SEX CRIMES IN THE BATHROOM ARE STILL ILLEGAL AS THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN!]]

Wow- cps and everything=- Must be really really really important then-

Pssst- you completely miss the point obviously- sorry you can’t figure it out-

[[And I did not miss the whole point of everything you stated,]]

Yes you do-


138 posted on 04/22/2016 8:46:25 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Mariner

Cruz is once again being the good little establishment poodle, yipping about the latest pointless, manufactured polarizing bullsh+t the left has cooked up to keep americans fighting amongst themselves while the real issues suffer.


139 posted on 04/22/2016 8:47:42 PM PDT by Helvan
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To: Bob434

Yes, it is important, that’s why I yelled it to you.

And yes, I can figure out that a bunch of panties in a wad Cruzers are trying to make an issue out of nothing to help their failed candidate.

Incidentally, I support the NC law. If people want restrictions on their bathroom, I support that.

If people want to open bathrooms to transgenders, I support that too.

States should be free to pass laws that their citizens support one way or the other.


140 posted on 04/22/2016 8:56:41 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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