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Obama Administration Tells Supreme Court 'Lawfully' Doesn't Mean 'Legally'
Cybercast News Service ^ | April 20, 2016 | 4:44 AM EDT | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 04/20/2016 2:56:15 AM PDT by Olog-hai

“Lawfully” does not mean “legally.”

Welcome to what Solicitor General Donald Verrilli told the Supreme Court on Monday is the “immigration world.” Or, more accurately, welcome to the new world President Barack Obama — through his solicitor — is asking the Supreme Court to join him in declaring. […]

“Aliens with lawful status under the [Immigration and Nationality Act] are here lawfully; their presence therefore is not a basis for removal,” said Obama’s solicitor in his brief. “By contrast, mere ‘lawful presence’ occurs when the Executive ‘openly tolerate[s] an undocumented alien’s continued presence in the United States for a fixed period (subject to revocation at the agency’s discretion),’ notwithstanding that the alien lacks lawful status and is present in violation of the law.”

So in the words of Obama’s own solicitor: An “undocumented alien” whom the administration grants “lawful presence” remains “present in violation of the law. …

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; donaldverilli; doublespeak; executiveamnesty; lawfully; obama; solicitorgeneral; supremecourt; wordgames
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2 + 2 = 5.
1 posted on 04/20/2016 2:56:16 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

2 + 2 = cinco


2 posted on 04/20/2016 2:58:32 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: JohnnyP
Or maybe khamsah, depending on context?
3 posted on 04/20/2016 3:00:52 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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Just typical new wave DemoRat doublespeak; good = bad, black = white, straight = gay


5 posted on 04/20/2016 3:02:27 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Olog-hai

Unfortunately, there are at least four members of the Supreme Court that will accept absurdity if Obama wants them to.


6 posted on 04/20/2016 3:06:04 AM PDT by djpg
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The fact some of these positions are even articulated tells me America is lost. Adults can choose what bathroom to use based on how they feel. It just goes on and on.


7 posted on 04/20/2016 3:15:08 AM PDT by PSUGOP
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To: Olog-hai

Right is wrong and wrong is right.


8 posted on 04/20/2016 3:21:20 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: Olog-hai

There’s classified and then there’s classified.


9 posted on 04/20/2016 3:21:40 AM PDT by mothball
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Socialism requires that you live a lie.


10 posted on 04/20/2016 3:28:14 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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Nice piece of wordsmithing to try to get what you want, Obama.

So let me see if I've got this right. You're saying it's like you're going to a prison to visit someone with a day pass. With the day pass, you are there "lawfully".

Now once inside the prison, you hide and are there long after your day pass expires. You are now there "illegally".

The problem with the argument is yes, you may be granted "lawful purpose" to enter, but once you've stayed beyond that "lawful purpose", you are here both illegally and unlawfully.

12 posted on 04/20/2016 3:36:28 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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so it’s illegal, but since the president decides not to enforce that law, they are here ‘lawfully’

got it?


13 posted on 04/20/2016 3:39:32 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump / ???)
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2 + 2 = 5

Common core math aside, I’d say the root of lawfully-legally hair splitting goes back to 1998.
After a deep inhale, Bubba responded to a grand jury in classical “answer a question with a question” with the question of “it depends on what the meaning of “Is” “Is”. Socrates he weren’t!
Instead of laughing him back to Hope, people were somewhere between amused and awed. Thus Verrilli must think if it worked once, it becomes precedent.


14 posted on 04/20/2016 3:50:37 AM PDT by Huaynero
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It depends upon what the meaning of "isn't" isn't.

Or something like that...

15 posted on 04/20/2016 3:50:58 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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By extension, any law can become null and void if the activity becomes “lawfully”.

So we return to the days with the word of the King was the law.

Selective enforcement of laws leads to chaos. But this is what the left wants so they are consistent.


16 posted on 04/20/2016 3:51:44 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I think it would be ironic if Hillary was arrested the day after she secures the nomination.)
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Come on, people! It’s all right there in the, “penumbras and emanations” clause!
As long as you identify as lawful you can legally crap on the laws.


17 posted on 04/20/2016 4:18:31 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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Try doing that en Mexico Barack...or most other countries for that matter.


18 posted on 04/20/2016 4:27:19 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ('You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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bookmark


19 posted on 04/20/2016 4:46:28 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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In obamaworld, a tax is not a tax, killing babies is a lifesaving event, and illegal is legal.

This is Orwellian doublespeak at its finest.


20 posted on 04/20/2016 4:51:54 AM PDT by IronJack
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