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Was Trump Right That Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Punished? (Good John Zmirak article)
The Stream ^ | March 30, 2016 | John Zmirak

Posted on 04/06/2016 4:55:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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Class, discuss.
1 posted on 04/06/2016 4:55:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

He was right.


2 posted on 04/06/2016 4:56:13 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Hain't we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain't that a big enough majority in any town?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Poor Ted. 13 more days to act like a big shot.

It’s such a hoot to watch the propaganda on the forum.

It’s not working, but hey, it helps create such a peaceful atmosphere here.

Trump on April 19th, will end Ted Cruz’s presidential bid.

Yea!


3 posted on 04/06/2016 4:56:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

This killing of unborn humans ( hillary’s term) is an abomination to God. All those complicit should be harsly punished to insure deterrence. With stiff rape laws , there is no excuse for un-wanted pregnancy. ZERO.


4 posted on 04/06/2016 4:59:14 PM PDT by WENDLE (I guess)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Trump disagrees with Trump on the issue, leaving his supporters with egg on their face. But like a battered wife, they will continue to defend Donald.


5 posted on 04/06/2016 5:00:12 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Yes, the baby has the right to life, but the mother has the right to control her body, too, so how can we disentangle the claims of two people who literally inhabit the same space, eat the same food, and are intimately related?”

Simple: one had the CHOICE to put the other into that dependent position.


6 posted on 04/06/2016 5:00:35 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's a no snitch business.

Maybe we could get rid of this extraordinary crime if both were up for punishment.

Even when it was illegal, the only time that it was prosecuted was when the woman wound up in the hospital and she snitched. Attorneys would run to her bedside to get her deposition.

7 posted on 04/06/2016 5:01:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Mrs. Don-o

They should be punished only if the law made all abortions illegal. That is what he said. The truth is that if a law is illegal and you violate the law you should be held accountable. That is what Trump said an if anyone disagrees is stupid.


8 posted on 04/06/2016 5:01:45 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: DoughtyOne
Oh geez, I was thinking we could volley back and forth a bit about whether it's a good legislative strategy to focus on punishing women.

Zmirak's comments have nothing to do with Trump (or Cruz) except as a topical hook. No reason whatsoever to think Zmirak is shilling for Cruz, or gunning for Trump--- who has already, himself, repudiated the "punish women" approach.

But I overestimated the potential for actual discussion here.

9 posted on 04/06/2016 5:04:10 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." -- Billie Holiday)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

one of the reasons why we are being flooded with low-iq savages is because we were fed a load of crap about a woman’s right to choose. Of course it should be punishable. Having babies should be rewarded


10 posted on 04/06/2016 5:04:15 PM PDT by ghosthost
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Trump was right, being a willing accessory to murder should be punishable accordingly. Is it political suicide to admit this in today’s America? Yes.


11 posted on 04/06/2016 5:04:43 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: ctdonath2

Usually.


12 posted on 04/06/2016 5:04:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." -- Billie Holiday)
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To: Logical me

“That is what Trump said an if anyone disagrees is stupid.”

A few hours later Trump disagreed. I guess that means Trump is stupid.


13 posted on 04/06/2016 5:04:52 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Women who give themselves abortions (deliberately through drugs, trauma or other means) are currently charged. There are many examples of this.

If you go to Planned Parenthood, it’s okay.


14 posted on 04/06/2016 5:06:13 PM PDT by Vic S
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To: ctdonath2
I feel a song coming on. ( Sorry for the ad - it's easy to skip )
15 posted on 04/06/2016 5:07:04 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Gosh.

People were saying how hurtful Trump’s remarks were to the pro baby side.

So we keep bringing it up on Free Republic.

Maybe it’s not about Trump’s remarks.

Maybe it’s about trying to score political points against Trump.


16 posted on 04/06/2016 5:08:39 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I appreciate the perspective - conservatives have sold out for politics. We need to have this conversation, but I think we also need to delve into casual sex and women not being deemed as special because we are so busy insisting we be treated like men.


17 posted on 04/06/2016 5:09:12 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Mrs. Don-o

People who attempt suicide can wind up institutionalised for years. It is difficult to win an argument when you have no cure convictions. There are some truths in life that must be acknowledged regardless of how bad they make you feel.


18 posted on 04/06/2016 5:09:59 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Nice try. If you think I’m buying that, think again.


19 posted on 04/06/2016 5:10:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Vic S
I read that a woman was recently convicted on a self-induced abortion in Ireland with drugs she got on the Internet (she got 2 months, suspended, and 2 years probation -- her shocked roommates, who were pro-life girls, blew the whistle on her) but I hadn't heard of prosecutions in the USA.

I simply don't know.

This may vary from state to state. Serious question, can you link to more information here?

20 posted on 04/06/2016 5:11:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." -- Billie Holiday)
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