Wisconsin Becomes Ground Zero in Advanced Political / Media Warfare…(Trump leads in one poll)

Conservative Treehouse ^ | 3/30/2016 | Sundance

[GilGil]

Two recent polls from Wisconsin highlight the bizarre world of information contrast. ◾One poll of 6,000 from Optimus Research; ◾And another poll of 471 from Marquette University Law School.

Take all of this poll data with a grain of salt. Instead look at the visible activity you can rely upon. The crowds, or the raw data which has not reached a filter.

Last Night – Between 8 and 9 p.m., when Cruz answered questions from Anderson Cooper and GOP voters in Wisconsin, CNN averaged 2.78 million viewers, 853,000 of whom were in the demo. Between 9 and 10 p.m., when it was Trump’s turn, CNN averaged 4.04 million viewers, with 1.33 million in the demo.

That’s 45.32% more people who tuned in to watch Donald Trump than watched Ted Cruz on the same show.

Kasich was on last, between 10 and 11 p.m. During that hour, CNN averaged 2.97 million viewers, with 999,000 in the demo.

CNN’s closest competitor during the evening, Fox News, also saw a boost when Trump appeared on Sean Hannity’s 10 p.m. show. Hannity’s program with Trump averaged 466,000 in the demo, almost half as many as watched Kasich on CNN. (link)

[GilGil]

The Optimus poll where 6000 people were polled Trump is at 29%, Kasich 26%, and Cruz at 25% with a margin of error of 1.14%. Again this poll has 6000 polled. The other poll, the Marquette poll polls 471 people and finds Cruz at 40%, Trump at 30%, and Kasich at 21% with a margin of error of 5.8%. Interestingly, there is no mention of the Optimus poll anywhere when you google "Wisconsin polls" but Marquette is plastered everywhere. You would think that a poll polling 6000 people instead of 471 would give a better picture of what is happening especially when one only has a 1.4% margin of error and the other has 5.8%. The media seems totally disinterested. Conclusion! The Wisconsin race is wide open and Trump has a very good shot.

[SamAdams76]

I hope Trump pulls it out in Wisconsin. Otherwise the anti-Trumpers will be pushing out a lot of FUD for the next two weeks. A Trump victory in WI will pretty much seal the deal as we head into Trump friendlier states like NY, CT, NJ and PA.

[CA Conservative]

The Optimus poll is a robocall poll - not very reliable methodology overall (Rasmussen used to do robocall polls). Also, I can’t find much of a track record for the company to judge by. That may be why most people don’t pay a lot of attention to it.

The Marquette poll is supposed to be the premier poll for Wisconsin politics.

[bigbob]

Wisconsin is funny, some polls had Walker down or tied in the recall election yet he walked away with it by 7%. The fact that it’s an open primary, not a stupid caucus, and that I think there are a lot of blue collar Democrats who have disdain for the University of Wisconsin eggheads and occupier types and who just want good paying jobs and less DC control hopefully will be crossing over to help Trump win.

Delegates are won by congressional district.

[Wpin]

I think there is more importance placed on Wisconsin for Trump that is warranted. He will win delegates even if he does not win the state...which I think he will win regardless of Marquette’s poll.

But, more importantly Trump looks great moving forward for picking up a couple hundred more delegates in April.

What is amazing to me are the Cruz and Kasich supporters who know that their candidates cannot win the nomination prior to the convention. Yet, they are helping them to deprive the people of their choice. It is despicable.

[onyx]

For decades as the UniParty ranks have swollen – and with them the advanced political machinations to retain power and keep control over the electorate….

Depending on the battle-space, national, regional or state voters have historically been viewed by those within the Machiavellian consort as sheeple masses, pawns to be shifted from here to there depending on need. The professional political class and the professional corporate media class working hand-in-hand to further their own self-interested agenda.

However, with the advent of rapid, engaging and transportable communication their grip on information has diminished severely. It is no longer necessary to take to the streets just to identify there are more of us than them.

Understandably, this is a source of much consternation – and as a direct consequence the owners of the social media communication platforms have been enlisted, many corrupted, to aid the modern usurp.

Everyone would be wise to remember, from the perspective of those in power, information is used to manipulate behavior. Polls are tools, we have continually warned of “agenda polls”, “push polls’ and polling done by Political Public Relations firms on behalf of the people who pay for them.

When you to accept that polls can also be tools for disinformation you can look beyond the top-line message and review the intent from the messenger. Two recent polls from Wisconsin highlight the bizarre world of information contrast.

• One poll of 6,000 from Optimus Research;
• And another poll of 471 from Marquette University Law School.

Take all of this poll data with a grain of salt. Instead look at the visible activity you can rely upon. The crowds, or the raw data which has not reached a filter.

Last Night – Between 8 and 9 p.m., when Cruz answered questions from Anderson Cooper and GOP voters in Wisconsin, CNN averaged 2.78 million viewers, 853,000 of whom were in the demo. Between 9 and 10 p.m., when it was Trump’s turn, CNN averaged 4.04 million viewers, with 1.33 million in the demo.

That’s 45.32% more people who tuned in to watch Donald Trump than watched Ted Cruz on the same show.

Kasich was on last, between 10 and 11 p.m. During that hour, CNN averaged 2.97 million viewers, with 999,000 in the demo.

CNN’s closest competitor during the evening, Fox News, also saw a boost when Trump appeared on Sean Hannity’s 10 p.m. show. Hannity’s program with Trump averaged 466,000 in the demo, almost half as many as watched Kasich on CNN. (link)

In Poland, during the solidarity movement, it was widely communicated:

We took to the streets and looked around; it was then that we noticed we are more.

It was then when we noticed there are more of us than those who oppose us. It was then when our psychology changed.

From that movement forward, we began to win….

The Takeaway?….

GO VOTE !

You’ve probably seen this version:

But have you ever seen this version ?

[GilGil]

Look at the ratings in the CNN Wisconsin Town hall. Trump totally smashed it compared to Cruz/Kasich.

[BlackAdderess]

Wisconsin is where we got much of what we now know as the GOPe. I think it’s a foregone conclusion only being talked up by people who want Trump to lose and the inside-the-beltway crowd to win.

[onyx]

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump

Congratulations to @CNN for having the wisdom to pick TRUMP! #MakeAmericaGreatAgain #Trump2016

[Red Steel]

“Wisconsin polls” but Marquette is plastered everywhere.”

I bet ME-Again Kelly is getting all excited right about now.

[John Valentine]

An alternate conclusion is that the Optimus Poll is a Trump robotic push poll. If you have a look at the questions asked, it sure looks like one to me. In other words, I think it is suspect.

For example, the poll asks specifically about Trump, Kasich and Cruz - in that order. A genuine poll rotates the choices.

Another point, and any statistician will confirm this, there is no reason to poll a sample size of 6,000 respondents. it is absurd since meaningful results can be obtained with a sample size one-tenth that.

I think I will stick with the reputable polls. If one comes out that puts the marquette poll in doubt, I’ll rethink. Until than, the Marquette poll looks good to me.

[GilGil]

ump blew it out with over 4,000,000 watching to Cruz’ 3,000,000.

[John Valentine]

You are headed for a major disappointment.

[GilGil]

In the CNN Townhall, over 4,000,000 watched Trump to Cruz’ 3,000,000 . There is an accurate poll for you! I think I will stick with the ratings.

[John Valentine]

Cruz is not trying to deprive ME of MY choice. Far from it.

My view is that if Trump wants it he ought to win it. I’ll be watching the NCAA Men’s BB tourney in a few days, and if my team is down by 15 at the half, I do in fact want them to come back to the court, and not default.

I think it’s nonsense and pishtosh for Trump backers to expect other candidates to bow out just to satisfy some pathological ego tripper.

So, far from despicable, it’s an honorable and proud tradition of fighting until the battle is won or lost. Fight on Ted!

[John Valentine]

It may come as a surprise to you but that is not how elections are decided.

Thank God!

[John Valentine]

I think I will stick with the ratings.

I think you had better. They are as good as it is going to be for you.

[moehoward]

Reports are Cruz is dumping all remaining resources in WI, it’s obviously a must win for him.

[Wpin]

Trump basically has won it...no other candidate has the capability of getting enough delegates to win the nomination prior to the convention.

This is not a game John...this is fighting for the survival of this failing nation. To decide to screw the voters because you can is not honorable, it is truly despicable. That is the game plan Cruz and Kasich have. And those who support them understand this and simply do not care. So, the division in the Republican party will become a permanent fracture should they succeed in stealing the nomination from Trump. It is that simple, that easy to understand.