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Why Apple Really Lost Its Privacy Fight with the FBI
Yahoo Finance ^ | March 30, 2016 | by Liz Peek

Posted on 03/30/2016 4:20:27 PM PDT by Swordmaker

The battle between the FBI and Apple ended on Monday with “no clear winner,” according to The New York Times. Not so. The clear winner is the American people, and the clear loser is Apple.

The FBI had requested Apple’s help in unlocking a cell phone used by the San Bernardino killers--Apple refused. The Justice Department took the dispute to court, arguing that a search warrant required Apple to program a “backdoor” into Syed Farook’s password- protected iPhone5. A judge initially decided in favor of the government, but Apple appealed the ruling; the case was expected to end up at the Supreme Court.

Monday, everything changed when the FBI announced it had gained access to Farook’s phone and didn’t need Apple’s help after all. Several issues in the case remain unresolved, but for the moment, the Justice Department has the information it sought.

Apple, on the other hand, looks foolish. Now we know that their much-vaunted privacy settings are not so private after all. By literally making a federal case out of its refusal to comply with the government, Apple CEO Tim Cook meant to show the world that his company was willing to buck the system to protect customer security. Instead, the world has learned that iPhone passwords can be hacked.  

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: applelost; applepinglist; applescrewedup; fbi; fbiapple; fuapple; iphone; privacy
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1 posted on 03/30/2016 4:20:27 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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This protects Apple from being forced by some other government to provide the same back door. If FBI, or Chinese government spooks, can break the code, fine. But China can’t force Apple to provide the back door as a condition of sale.

Well, they could still, I suppose. We’ll see. But for sure if they created the back door, China could certainly demand it, and so could every other government with a market big enough to matter.


2 posted on 03/30/2016 4:25:08 PM PDT by marron
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Liz Peek of The Financial Times at Yahoo! Finance is clearly clueless about what Apple's position was all about in the FBI v. Apple fight. She seems to think it was about marketing the iPhone's security, not providing privacy to all Apple users. . . and that the FBI's ability to hack into one iPhone 5C with an expensive hack using a third party is not proof of a general vulnerability to Apple's more modern iOS devices at all. Her mis-understanding leads her to conclude that Apple lost this battle. — PING!

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3 posted on 03/30/2016 4:26:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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I’d say this will mark a steep and fast decline in Apple and the cult it fostered.


4 posted on 03/30/2016 4:26:53 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: marron

“China could certainly demand it”

How about Apple telling China that it will move it’s production for Apple products out of China?


5 posted on 03/30/2016 4:27:10 PM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: Swordmaker

Or, maybe the Feds came to the conclusion there was not likely anything particularly valuable in that phone beyond what the NSA had already collected, and just decided to claim they had already hacked it, so “never mind”.


6 posted on 03/30/2016 4:27:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Swordmaker

Roflol... OR NOT.

Apple wins

Government hacks loose.


7 posted on 03/30/2016 4:28:20 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Is it a good short? I’m always nervous about shorting a popular name....


8 posted on 03/30/2016 4:28:28 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Swordmaker

I’m not seeing the problem.

One device, an obsolete model, using a medium security technique long suspected of a weakness, was after tremendous wrangling & threats & money cracked by a business specializing in such forensic work, likely involving specialized hardware.

We do not disparage locks just because locksmiths can, with training tools & practice, open some.


9 posted on 03/30/2016 4:28:41 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: vette6387

The anti-Trumpers claim it’s impossible for Apple to move its production out of China.


10 posted on 03/30/2016 4:29:09 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marron

“China can’t force Apple to provide the back door as a condition of sale.”

To the contrary, indications are China forced Apple to prove there WASN’T a back door.


11 posted on 03/30/2016 4:29:51 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: vette6387
How about Apple telling China that it will move it’s production for Apple products out of China?

I would certainly like to see this. About time.

12 posted on 03/30/2016 4:30:32 PM PDT by marron
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Why? The flaw has already been fixed.


13 posted on 03/30/2016 4:30:46 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
I’d say this will mark a steep and fast decline in Apple and the cult it fostered.

I'm not surprised at that conclusion from certain quarters.

It doesn't prevent them from being completely wrong. Apple is up over $5 a share since the iPhone was hacked.

14 posted on 03/30/2016 4:32:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker

Tim Cook better cook up some CROW PIE. He messed up big time on this. Apple stocks will plunge now as they see anyone can crack the code to the iPhone. Good ploy Tim Cook.


15 posted on 03/30/2016 4:32:33 PM PDT by rovenstinez (Har)
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To: Swordmaker
Apple, on the other hand, looks foolish. Now we know that their much-vaunted privacy settings are not so private after all.

This is not a certainty at all. How do we know the FBI didn't simply remember the password they had changed after seizing the phone? I wouldn't expect them to tell the public the truth about how they accessed it.

16 posted on 03/30/2016 4:34:26 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Apple stocks will plunge now

Put your IRA in Apple puts and become the next John Paulson?

17 posted on 03/30/2016 4:35:24 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
I’d say this will mark a steep and fast decline in Apple and the cult it fostered.

Incidentally, Okie, since there are more than 800 million individual users of Apple products, it's hard to call it a cult, it would be a mainstream religion now. The Anti-Apple Hate Brigade with their level of irrational beliefs would be the cult.

18 posted on 03/30/2016 4:35:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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To: Swordmaker

Some behind the scenes quid pro quo is my guess.


19 posted on 03/30/2016 4:41:26 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: rovenstinez

One security option on one obsolete model can be cracked by a forensics company with lots of tools & talent for about the price of a car and the practical destruction of the device.

That’s hardly “anyone can crack the code to the iPhone”.


20 posted on 03/30/2016 4:42:39 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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