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Donald Trump Says Protesters Are Violating His First Amendment Rights
Yahoo News ^ | 3 hours ago | Dylan Stableford Senior editor

Posted on 03/20/2016 2:01:02 PM PDT by drewh

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Time and time again, you reveal your gross lack of understanding of both the Constitution, federal law, and private property.

No, but you certainly are revealing yours... As I pointed, what they are doing may be, and probably is, illegal. But they are not violating his 1st Amendment rights - only the government can do that.

Are Trump supporters completely incapable of staying on topic? The question is not whether what they are doing is legal, moral, ethical or even polite - the question being discussed here is whether it constitutes a violation of Trump's 1st amendment rights, as he claims. It does not.

81 posted on 03/20/2016 3:25:15 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Kenny

The man, identified as Tony Pettway, 32, was arrested inside the Trump event and charged with the misdemeanor before being released, the Tucson Police Department said.


82 posted on 03/20/2016 3:25:40 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: silverleaf

Thanks for the link to the eye witness account.


83 posted on 03/20/2016 3:25:43 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: VanDeKoik
And Jim Rob would lose. As a commenter above noted, the First amendment applies to government action.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

84 posted on 03/20/2016 3:26:01 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man. Jefferson)
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To: JPJones

He has now been formally charged with assault.


85 posted on 03/20/2016 3:26:42 PM PDT by KC Burke (Consider all of my posts as first drafts. (Apologies to L. Niven))
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To: drewh

The man’s right. When will the prosecution of these violators come about?

That would be a rhetorical question...maybe if he was a homosexual or some other victim group member.


86 posted on 03/20/2016 3:27:16 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Maybe I’m just getting paranoid but George Stephanopoulos was relentless this morning on this point. And it’s convenient with all the hundreds of thousands to attend Trump rallies that this guy just lets loose.

I didn’t feel that way about the other supporter who clocked the protestor, don’t know why.


87 posted on 03/20/2016 3:29:51 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Ulysse
You seem to ignore that Trump is talking about political meetings during a campaign ....!!

Which detail is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. Only the government has the ability to violate your 1st Amendment rights. It is plain English, people! Go back and read the amendment. It says, "Congress shall make no law..." It says absolutely nothing about what your neighbor can or can't do. There may be state or federal laws being violated by these protests, but the Constitution is not.

88 posted on 03/20/2016 3:30:06 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Blue Collar Christian; silverleaf

From silverleaf a must see first see video from an eyewitness at the Tucson rally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAVT1fZHl_4


89 posted on 03/20/2016 3:31:26 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: drewh

Not that the protesters aren’t assahts, but only governments or government actors can violate the 1st Amendment.

This is a pretty basic principle of civics.

Does Trump have a clue how the Constitution works?


90 posted on 03/20/2016 3:31:36 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: KC Burke

Charges should be dismissed.


91 posted on 03/20/2016 3:43:05 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: Starstruck

Apples and oranges. A firearm is a tool and your scenario would be the same as if you stole a hammer.

In Florida, where I live, a company cannot make a policy that forbids you to have a firearm in your vehicle while at work because it violates an individuals 2nd Amendentment right to bear arms. The company is not a government. It is an entity that can violate an individual right.


92 posted on 03/20/2016 3:45:05 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: VanDeKoik
" JimRob would sue on free speech grounds!"

No, he would sue under commercial and contractual grounds.

And, if that hosting service originally decided not to host him due to the content of FR, they could with impunity.

93 posted on 03/20/2016 3:49:31 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: PJammers

I am amazed that the protesters are getting away with this. Years ago there was a judge Roy Moore keep the Ten Commandments rally at the foot of the Supreme Court. At one point I politely asked one of the cops if it was okay if I sat on one of the bottom steps. He sneered at me and told me if I so much as put a toe on a step he’d arrest me so fast my head would spin. And we were mannerly and well behaved protesters.


94 posted on 03/20/2016 3:54:28 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Brilliant

If I were to say:

“Mr. Trump eats the heads off babies”

Or

“Mr. Brilliant eats the head off babies”

I could be sued for libel for the bottom statement and not the top. The statement is patently false in both cases, but because Trump is a public figure it is deemed free speech. Just because he’s a public figure doesnt mean it damages him any less. You could probably argue, in fact, it may damage him more. This is what he is getting at.

I don’t nessasarily agree, but he kind of has a point.


95 posted on 03/20/2016 3:57:59 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: freepertoo

Exactly. As always, only socialist crybabies are allowed to break the law.


96 posted on 03/20/2016 4:00:11 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: HWGruene
so then the private individual can own as many slaves as he likes?

Nope. The government won't let you.

you’re mistaken. private people can be and are sued for infringements of constitutional rights as can counties, cities and state governments.

For example?

97 posted on 03/20/2016 4:01:44 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: PJammers
In Florida, where I live, a company cannot make a policy that forbids you to have a firearm in your vehicle while at work because it violates an individuals 2nd Amendentment right to bear arms.

So did someone make a policy that Trump couldn't speak or have peaceful assembly? If protestors break the law arrest them for the law they broke.

98 posted on 03/20/2016 4:02:30 PM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: CA Conservative

So answer me this:

a landlord tells a tenent they cannot fly an American Flag on the apartment they rent.

Here’s another one:

A person sues and artist because he/she does not like the content because he/ she feels it offends thier religion.


99 posted on 03/20/2016 4:07:08 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Starstruck

I agree. However, my point is, constitutional rights are bestowed by our creator to each individually.


100 posted on 03/20/2016 4:09:22 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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