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EPA’s Gold King Mine Blowout Was No Accident
/dailycaller ^ | 03/14/2016 | Michael Bastasch and Ethan Barton

Posted on 03/14/2016 12:55:06 PM PDT by MarvinStinson

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To: MarvinStinson

It was out four months before that the “accident” was going to happen.


41 posted on 03/14/2016 2:25:23 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: RedStateRocker

I don’t think you meant that to be posted to me.

My response would be that I do not know the facts of the case to understand why the spill took place, so I can’t give you a good answer.

Seems to me the EPA had been on-sight though. Most folks seem to think the EPA is the party that blew it.

If someone can provide information that shoots this down, I’m certainly willing to listen.


42 posted on 03/14/2016 2:28:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: rdcbn
I consider it nasty but not in the league of Exxon Valdez, not by a long shot. The river cleansed itself fairly quickly; the metals, once separated from the acid mine water, became attached and bound to many of the fine grained silt and clay particles which were deposited down river. They will remain bound to those particles unless the river becomes acidic, not likely in the arid west. That is why continued acid mine drainage in humid areas is so dangerous - the metals are in solution and remain so. A one time event in an arid environment has many fewer long term consequences.

BTW, do you know where the greatest accidental radiological disaster in the US occurred? See this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Rock_uranium_mill_spill

43 posted on 03/14/2016 2:28:48 PM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio: the "Chameleon Candidate" - Changes positions faster than the reptile changes colors)
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To: MarvinStinson

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...


44 posted on 03/14/2016 2:31:44 PM PDT by shotgun
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45 posted on 03/14/2016 2:32:34 PM PDT by CedarDave (Marco Rubio: the "Chameleon Candidate" - Changes positions faster than the reptile changes colors)
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To: MarvinStinson

“Great point(s).

You should expand that to a whole article.

Thank you. I would dearly love to write an article on the subject. But several years ago I got Obama’d out of a job. Today I am working weeks at a time for seven days straight. I am only off today because I desperately needed to catch up with things that are going to cost me money and penalties if not done soon. Thanks to Obama, I have no retirement and no prospect at my age of recovering the highly compensated job I had, which allowed me to have health care, a retirement plan, and weekends off.


46 posted on 03/14/2016 2:33:50 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: DoughtyOne

I thought I was replying to the original post, sorry.

I am curious, though.

No matter how incompetent (or malign) the EPA, shouldn’t the person who owns and/or created the mess bear the main responsibility? If I had a few barrels of toxic sludge on my property without a permit and in contravention of any laws, and the authorities took some action that released it I would be the one responsible.


47 posted on 03/14/2016 2:35:09 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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To: MarvinStinson

ALL PART OF AGENDA 21
poison the water and people will leave
part of the federal land grab


48 posted on 03/14/2016 2:47:49 PM PDT by zzwhale
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To: RedStateRocker

I think the question is, could the EPA have cleaned the site up without this spill?

I haven’t heard a single entity defending the EPA on this, and that includes the EPA. I think I remember reading where it apologized for the disaster.


49 posted on 03/14/2016 2:55:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: MarvinStinson
ask Tyson Foods what happens when a private entity pollutes a river and the owners of Tyson and the Clintons are close friends
50 posted on 03/14/2016 2:55:27 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: MarvinStinson

The environmental extremists want drinking water shortages. They blame humans for warming and ruining their globe and they want people dead.


51 posted on 03/14/2016 3:09:29 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: csivils

There is quite a legal difference between accident and incident.
Accident infers that someone is at fault.
Incident only indicates that something happened.


52 posted on 03/14/2016 3:37:14 PM PDT by Fireone (The future must belong to those who tell the truth about Islam.)
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To: buwaya

From what I’ve read they were told it would happen if they continued to do their drilling.

Their own consultant told them it would happen.

So they knew the water would be released but did it anyway. Not a blunder. Not an accident. Intentional


53 posted on 03/14/2016 3:41:15 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MarvinStinson

"Everything was fine with our system until the power grid was shut off by Dickless here."

54 posted on 03/14/2016 3:42:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RedStateRocker

Because the epa took the action that caused the spill. Not the mine owner.


55 posted on 03/14/2016 3:43:59 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I've read the article, and the replies here, but I don't understand just WHAT the EPA was doing there in the first place.

A "study" of the mine's contents?

What were they looking for?

Was there an imminent danger that needed to be addressed?

56 posted on 03/14/2016 3:57:54 PM PDT by boop ("A Republic, if you can keep it."-Franklin, 1787. "We couldn't keep it"-America, 2016)
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To: MarvinStinson
The agency needs to be placed under a court ordered monitor for as long as it takes to return it to its intended functions.

Clean out all of the political operatives and environmental loons.

57 posted on 03/14/2016 4:24:47 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The republican party is the voters, not the politicians.)
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To: Fireone

That may be the legal definitions, but in health/safety/environmental prevention the word “incident” indicates a loss event without designation of what (or who) the root cause was. The process to capture what happened is called “first report of incident”, the investigation is often referred to as an incident investigation. The process at many companies is called II&R (Incident investigation and reporting). OSHA requires companies to track recordable injuries and use them to calculate TRIR (Total Recordable Incident Rate).


58 posted on 03/14/2016 4:32:37 PM PDT by csivils
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To: boop

From what I’ve read the water had built up. Everyone knew that. The mine owner request permission to drill and mitigate the water. The epa instead sent in their own contractors and released the water.


59 posted on 03/14/2016 4:42:24 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MarvinStinson

EPA MUST BE DISBANDED ..... my opinion.


60 posted on 03/14/2016 4:47:17 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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