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Exclusive: Hamas preparing Iranian-style swarm boat attacks for future clash
The Jerusalem Post | 03/03/2016 | Yaakov Lappin

Posted on 03/04/2016 2:48:21 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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Super Dvora MK-III

1 posted on 03/04/2016 2:48:21 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

90 k/hr. Yowza!


2 posted on 03/04/2016 3:18:15 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"Exclusive: Hamas preparing Iranian-style swarm boat attacks for future clash,"


3 posted on 03/04/2016 3:18:23 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“”But some are terrorists disguised as fishermen, he said.

We must be aware that every so often there are Hamas operatives, enemies, who are here, disguised as fishermen.””

They dress up as women also. They hide behind skirts. They have no honor and will rot in hell, with 72 Virginians to make their eternity as hellacious as possible.


4 posted on 03/04/2016 3:21:43 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

any threat from this swarm stuff.

read somewhere they could take down a carrier.


5 posted on 03/04/2016 3:34:02 AM PST by dp0622
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To: dp0622

I’m still waiting for the movie, “One A-10 vs. the Whole Iranian Navy.”


6 posted on 03/04/2016 3:52:02 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Prendre cinq et rendre quatre ce n'est pas donner.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

ROFL


7 posted on 03/04/2016 4:05:44 AM PST by dp0622
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To: sukhoi-30mki

IDF has a simple solution, counter measure with swarming armed drones.


8 posted on 03/04/2016 4:23:48 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Somebody needs to make the largest fishing net in the world .. a couple hundred miles long... and stretch it parallel to shore about 1 mile out and see what they catch.


9 posted on 03/04/2016 4:42:50 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The Super Dvora Mk III patrol boats are fast coastal patrol vessels similar to the American Navy's PCF (Swift) boats of the Vietnam and post-war era. Super Dvora’s are longer (90 feet vice 50 feet), faster, have a larger crew, and more endurance than the old PCF. The Israeli boats have had their armament upgraded in recent years. The main battery is the Rafael Typhoon GS mounting — a remotely operated, stabilized M242 Bushmaster 25mm cannon and a pair of Spike ER missiles with tandem HEAAT warheads. In addition there are two AN/M2 HB caliber .50 (12.7mm) machine guns; and one 20mm Oerlikon auto cannon.
10 posted on 03/04/2016 4:54:34 AM PST by MasterGunner01 ( To err is human, to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team)
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To: dp0622

That would be like a pissant raping an elephant. It could be done in a swarm situation with lots of missiles. More than likely not at this point. Carriers have lots of protection from escorts and air coverage.


11 posted on 03/04/2016 4:58:59 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: MasterGunner01
If the Israelis are concerned about Hamas or Hezbullah mounting swarm attacks, they might consider outfitting their Super Dvoras with AeroVironment’s Switchblade kamikaze drone. The Switch blade is compact and is fired from its shipping container launcher. Once airborne, the drone controller uses its on-board camera to locate and target the drone. Target lock accomplished, the drone crashes itself onto the target followed by warhead detonation. Carry a half dozen or ten of these suicide drones on board your patrol boat and the terrorists will regret a swarm attack on your Super Dvora.
12 posted on 03/04/2016 5:06:23 AM PST by MasterGunner01 ( To err is human, to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The USN has been doing a lot of research as to the best methods of stopping a swarm attack. And as is typical, they are very tight lipped about it. However, known area weapons could already reduce such a fast attack boat “armada” to flotsam.

For example, a propane bomb. Typically helicopter dropped, when deployed, it spins while spraying out a large cloud of propane, which it then ignites. Used on land, this causes a jump in atmospheric pressure from 1 atmosphere, to about 4 or 5 atmospheres in less than a second over an about mile square area. With very lethal consequences for those within its range.

Since water does not compress, over water it would be much worse.

An example of this is the CBU-72.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBU-72


13 posted on 03/04/2016 5:18:19 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“When a smuggling attempt is intercepted, the navy makes every effort to avoid harming the smugglers, out of an understanding that they are often civilians exploited by Hamas, the source said.”

This is a mistake. The smugglers need to fear Israel more than they fear Hamas.

L


14 posted on 03/04/2016 5:20:29 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: meatloaf

i’m glad to know that. thanks.

I sit around figuring 600 billion bucks a year should EASILY protect our ship from Iran.

but i’m not an expert at all, like some of you guys on the board.


15 posted on 03/04/2016 5:27:55 AM PST by dp0622
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Cluster bombs were my first thought as well. But the discouraging thing is that the last line in the Wikipedia citation you provided indicates that our remaining CBU-72’s are being “demilitarized”, which I take as Obama-speak for unilateral disarmament.


16 posted on 03/04/2016 5:44:01 AM PST by Stosh
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17 posted on 03/04/2016 5:51:18 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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“read somewhere they could take down a carrier.”

Providing the carrier group is constrained by ROE this could be true. Just my opinion here but I think the American Navy knows what is around them within a hundred mile radius. The only reason someone can get within that radius is because the Navy allowed them to.

An example of that is several years back, Chinese subs bragged that they were able to sneak up on an American aircraft carrier.

“The submarine encounter with the USS Kitty Hawk and its accompanying warships also is an embarrassment to the commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific, Adm. William J. Fallon, who is engaged in an ambitious military exchange program with China aimed at improving relations between the two nations’ militaries.”

I submit that the US military isn’t that stupid and they learned more about the subs than the subs learned about them.


18 posted on 03/04/2016 6:34:01 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (GOPe - Enriching the consultant class while selling out their constituents.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

from you lips to God’s ears.


19 posted on 03/04/2016 7:13:47 AM PST by dp0622
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To: Stosh

Different times, different weapons. Rest assured the USN has some impressively effective goodies. Remember that they regularly transverse the Strait of Hormuz, so this is never very far from their thoughts.


20 posted on 03/04/2016 12:51:34 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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