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Making sense of the early-2000s warming slowdown
Nature ^ | 2/1/16 | John C. Fyfe, et al

Posted on 02/28/2016 8:52:32 PM PST by gasport

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To: gasport

How about the truth? It works here. They lied about “warming” and now the accumulated data prove they lied. Algore is another problem Trump can help us get rid of.


41 posted on 02/29/2016 4:47:51 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: FredZarguna
Yes, and this is very surprising, because Nature has heretofore been largely unsympathetic to any position but that of the warmist-alarmists.

If they are back-tracking and admitting to the "pause", it probably means that they are worried that global temperatures are starting to trend DOWN.

42 posted on 02/29/2016 4:50:06 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: UCANSEE2

I doubt that adds up to much. Albedo changes from land use are more prominent of an overall effect. That said, whatever nature is doing is clearly dwarfing either.


43 posted on 02/29/2016 5:29:27 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: PapaBear3625

It is not Down in an absolute sense, but it is well outside of the drastic ‘up’ they predicted, and has been staying there for nearly two decades as their models get more and more outside of even theoretically plausible by their own calculations.


44 posted on 02/29/2016 5:33:29 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: spokeshave

The optic you posted is many years out of date.
(Excellent article in S&T BTW!)
The decline in umbral magnetic field has also ‘paused’.

http://www.leif.org/research/Livingston%20and%20Penn.png

If it resumes the decline it’ll likely be a bit after 2025 when it crosses the 1500 Gauss line due to a ‘pause’ (different from the temp pause)

As I mis-remember it, the S&T article hinged on a subsurface jetstream like thingy. The claim is/was that the change in latitude of the jetstream could be a predictor of the next 1/2 cycle (~11 years). My antenna is tuned for any follow up but I have not heard of the solar jetstream since the article. The authors of the cited research are prolly selling pencils on streetcorners now, assuming they got all the tar & feathers off.

BTW, Leif Svalgaard who publishes the link I included dis-agree’d with the premise of the S&T article a few years ago. At the time he expected the pause to be a curve upward, which has not happened yet. I think he is of the opinion that the TSI variations are insignificant and the ‘warming’ must have had another source. No idea if he attributes some or all to human activity but he discredits TSI variation as a cause.

Time will tell!
:)


45 posted on 02/29/2016 5:36:36 AM PST by Hermes37 (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space!)
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To: lepton

A pause is not going to stay “paused” forever. Either we will see upward trends again (at which point the warmists start screeching again) or the “pause” is actually a peak, at which point the warmists will become deathly quiet.


46 posted on 02/29/2016 5:45:00 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: AndyTheBear

That’s why they call it a warming slowdown instead of “pause” or “it stopped 16 years ago, and now that’s too long to ignore when models show only varying upward slopes”.


47 posted on 02/29/2016 6:36:15 AM PST by tbw2
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

The answer to bad science is more science not a forced consensus.


48 posted on 02/29/2016 8:22:41 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: chopperman

Yes, I know. I was just making a joke with it. Sorry.


49 posted on 02/29/2016 12:50:39 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Hermes37

IIRC, Leif Svalgaard Posited that it was cosmic rays being less shielded by a weaker solar magnetic field that caused more cloud formation, which causes some cooling periods, and stronger solar magnetism causes a lessening of the cosmic rays impacting the atmosphere causing less cloud formation, causing warming.

Within the last few years, there’ve been experiments and data collecting showing the link between cosmic rays and cloud formation to be correct.


50 posted on 02/29/2016 4:24:25 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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