Posted on 02/25/2016 8:35:05 AM PST by Biggirl
.... and more “open borders” than any of them. He’s an open borders wolf in ‘conservative’ sheep’s clothing.
Rubio Record (immigration)
http://www.eagleforum.org/immigration/rubio-record.html
Excerpt from link “CONCLUSION”:
There is no single major distinguishing policy difference between Marco Rubio, John McCain or Lindsey Graham. They have the same trade policy, immigration policy and foreign policy. But on immigration most especially — the issue in which all four have invested the most — there is no daylight separating them.
The difference, then, is one of persona, not policy. And in the arena of immigration, this translates into a vital difference. The biggest change from McCain-Kennedy, which could not get out of the Senate, and the Gang of Eight — which was nursed along by conservative pundits despite being to the left of Kennedy’s bill — was the presence of Rubio. Rubio created the conditions necessary to produce a considerably more open borders bill: conservatives who were invested in the Rubio Brand provided no early pushback but accepted Kennedy’s old talking points, and Rubio gave red state Democrats the political space necessary to support it. This is how it got 68 votes in the Senate.
The stakes of course are raised considerably if Rubio is President or Vice President. Rubio would have a much, much better chance than Obama of getting an open borders bill through Congress — while Boehner could refuse to bring up Obama’s mass immigration/amnesty bill for vote in 2014, Ryan would never refuse Rubio’s bill. Rubio’s presence, as it did with the Gang of Eight, would create the cover for both certain Republicans and all Democrats to get behind a far more open borders plan. Given that nearly every House Democrat sponsored the Gang of Eight House version (including Pelosi and Gutierrez), Ryan would not need to gather that many additional votes (House GOP leaders might have refused Obama’s 2014 request for a vote but they would not refuse President Rubio’s).
All of which adds up to: there is likely no person in the United States of America in a better position to enact mass immigration legislation than a President Rubio — no one who could deliver more votes in both parties for open borders immigration. Senator Rubio is not Main Street’s Obama, he is Wall Street’s Obama: President Obama was a hardcore leftist running as centrist; Senator Rubio is a Wall Street globalist running as a tea party conservative.
Unlike other legislation, the effects of bad immigration policy cannot be repealed. They are forever. The Republican party would never nominate a pro-Obamacare candidate, and it must be an even stronger maxim that it should not nominate any candidate who is committed to a policy of mass immigration. Rubio wrote the Obamacare of immigration policies: a bill that would have eviscerated the middle class, plunged millions into poverty, legalized the most dangerous aliens on the planet, overwhelmed our schools and safety nets, and done irreversible violence to the idea of America as a nation-state. Rubio is the candidate of open borders, Obamatrade and mass immigration, making one last attempt to pull off one big con.
Thank you. I agree.
A play on words. He is saying Trump is really a functional liberal, in comparison. Based on what they say, most of the Repub candidates are indeed conservative on some things and liberal on others. No candidate is a “purebred”.
In addition to being one big liar. Rubio, get lost. You are worthless.
Rubio's strength is in really understanding economic dynamics. His expression of his reasons for joining the Gang of Eight, back at the time, however, indicated a retained preference for allowing Hispanic immigration, because of his ethnic background. This from an American perspective is not Conservatism. We would have total chaos, if all of us primarily identified with the interests of the human stocks from which our ancestors emigrated, of course. But that is not the primary point.
Lost in Marco's attitude is the Constitutional duty to preserving the Blessings of Liberty--as the Founders understood them, to an American posterity. I do not fault Marco for honoring his Cuban ancestry; only for failing to recognize that his acceptance into America imposes a different duty on his behavior, now.
So do you think Trump, Kasich, and Carson are more conservative than Rubio??
Liar, liar, Sombrero on fire! Rubiobot is !Yeb II!
Second, I'm considering the political realities of what is going to get through a Senate that is either Democrat controlled, or borderline GOP controlled with key RINO votes. Democrats will filibuster anything extreme even if the GOP had the actual votes for draconian immigration measures, which I don't think they will.
So when I add the agreement of all three for border security first, all three saying that illegals would not be permanently removed, and what compromises are going to have to be made to get stuff through the Senate, I think all three end up in about the same place. Feel free to disagree, but that's how I see it.
I know there is this belief among some that this massive wave of angry Trump voters will scare the Senate into doing his bidding. I think anyone who says that has not watched the Senate very closely over the course of American history.
A better candidate this time around had a real chance. Unfortunately, all were too flawed to meet the challenge.
Post 36 was well and fairly said.
Do you think Trump is more conservative than Rubio on, say, the sanctity of life? At the February 6 debate, Rubio gave a strong answer on his pro-life views. Did you hear it?
Marco Rubio's Fantastic Answer On Abortion at GOP Debate
By way of contrast, here is Ducking Donald dodging and deflecting when asked about his views on late-term abortion. This was on January 28 of this year. Watch:
I agree with a lot of this, but I disagree about Rubio. I did some digging into how he performed as Speaker of the Florida legislature, He was well-liked and very effective, even according to Democrats who thought him too conservative.
He's also a sitting Senator that seems well-liked, or at least not disliked, and his campaign hasn't revolved around scapegoating his fellow Senators. He would have entered office (though it's not going to happen) with goodwill in Congress.
Of the three, I think he'd be the most effective at working with Congress, followed by Trump, then the dogcatcher, then Ted.
I have yet to see any poll any where that shows Rubio ahead. I just saw a poll showing Trump at 44, Rubio 28, and Cruz 16 in FLORIDA, Rubio’s home state.
Can anyone tell me a single state that Rubio will win on Super Tuesday? If he doesn’t win at least 2 or 3 states that day, his campaign will be on life support, same for Cruz.
That is one of a great many important issues. Trump's whole reason for running--for turning away from his business to try to save America--is the preservation of our heritage. Rubio's affiliation with the Gang Of Eight, clearly demonstrates that he is to the Left of Trump, in his fundamental orientation.
Rubio is almost as conservative as Lindsy Graham.
If you have to TELL us you are, then you AIN’T
Rubio: “I’m As Conservative As GOPe In Washinton”
Rubio, the lying Gang of 8 cabana boy.
He’s got other non-conservative planks to his platform as well.
He’d make a big expansion of the child tax credit rather than do the economically better reduction in rates to the levels any of the other candidate has.
He’d also expand the government funding of college loans, but with a sliding scale, limited time “payoff” of those loans—not only in the future, but for those who already racked up big loans. In that Obama-esque scenario, privileged punks could rack up hundreds of thousands in loans—and then take no or only a low-paid (community organizer?) job until the 10 years are up and they are home free—with taxpayers picking up their bill.
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