Posted on 02/19/2016 2:59:33 PM PST by Trumpinator
Hope they packed some body bags,they’re gonna need them.
I’ll skip the popcorn and go right for the bourbon if that happens.
“Oh how ironic it is that the Russians are on the right side of this war”
They’re still on the side of Iran, Hezbollah and Assad right? The side that’s slaughtered a quarter of a million civilians and has terrorized much of the Syrian population into fleeing west? What in the world are you talking about?
And whats the other option? Let assad fall, we saw what happened when Mubarak was thrown out of power in Egypt and elections were held, the muslim brotherhood won the elections.
Assad is bad, the alternative is worse
“The battle would be Turkish tanks vs Russian Air.
Turkey does not have the air power to defend those tanks from the Russian Air Force.”
Russia can’t resupply their forces in Syria by air without flying through NATO air space. They can’t quickly resupply by water without sailing through Turkish waters. And Turkey has far more air assets in the region including enough in air defenses to shoot down anything the Russians put in the air FROM Turkey. This is Turkey’s home field. The Russians are going to avoid direct conflict with turkey there if they can. That’s why they’re starting this whole UNSC circus over the issue.
Oh and what happened in the last elections held in Palestine? Hamas won fair and square.
Sorry but its better to have a dictator like Assad or Sisi in control of muslim nations then allowing them to vote.
“Assad is bad, the alternative is worse”
The alternative is not worse. This is the Assad family’s second round of mass exterminations in support of their regime. Hundreds of thousands of people slaughtered to keep a 15% minority population in charge of a nation tens of millions of people of different religions and ethnicities who hate them and each other. There’s no Assad option for an end to this conflict.
So what? They are muslims
M-60 vs T-72 upgraded = no contest.
M-60 vs T-90 = target practice.
“Oh and what happened in the last elections held in Palestine? Hamas won fair and square.
Sorry but its better to have a dictator like Assad or Sisi in control of muslim nations then allowing them to vote.”
What does that have to do with anything? Most of the countries in the region other than Israel are dictatorships. Most of them are our allies, at least nominally. Iran and Syria are our enemies and Hezbollah is an international terrorist organization. Russia is only supporting them as a strategic counterbalance against our influence in the region. You’re cheerleading our nation’s enemies for what reason exactly? Syria/Iran/Hezbollah have murdered far more people than Isis can even dream of. Over the years they’ve conspired to kill more Americans than any nation or group of nations since the end of the Vietnam war. Iran has a long term dream to turn that axis into a nuclear power. They’re pretty much never the lesser of any two sets of evils.
“I wonder if the Iranians would get involved. The Saudis against the Iranians would be popcorn time.”
I think they already had all they wanted and bugged out. They are probably more concerned with Saudi Arabia directly.
“So what? They are muslims”
I’m not even going to address the silliness of that comment directly, but in point of fact they are Muslims, Christians, Kurds of all stripes and Druze. It’s one of the most ethnically and religiously diverse regions on earth. And innocent men, women and children don’t deserve to be slaughtered by their government no matter their religious leanings. And certainly not with us cheering their government on.
“If all else fails Russia nukes the sand. If you are going to use a nuke - an arid land full of Muslims is a no brainier for Putin. It would send a message to NATO and the EU about eastern expansion to boot.”
I agree with you. I also wonder how much of the military Tayyip can afford to send out of country when the country itself is restive.
Because what would replace Assad would even be worse.
DO i like Assad? No but all the major anti assad groups are radical muslims. The largest anti Assad force is Ahrar ash-Sham is basically diet al qaeda. They are aligned with nusra.
Zahran Alloush who was the leader of Army of Islam (until Russians killed him in December) has praised bin laden repeatedly for the 911 attacks. Army of Islam is the second largest anti assad faction besides nusra and isis
So that’s what you get with Assad gone.
Oh and lets look at the islamic front, another “moderate” anti assad faction, only problem is that they are also diet al qaeda, they are a saudi proxy that promotes radical wahbisism
Russia can fly over the Caspian, through Iran and Iraq to reach Syria.
If Turkey puts their aircraft over Syria, they would be shot down.
If they fire on Russian aircraft from Turkey, it's ON and NATO won't intervene.
The Saudis also have ABM defense systems—the western kind, the kind that work.
Turkey and Russia have gone at each other many times going back to the time of the Tsars. The army knows that going after Russia is a bad idea.
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