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Conservative Leaders Oppose Call to Require Young Women to Register Draft (Jeb OK Drafting Women)
CNS ^ | February 9, 2016 | Barbara Hollingsworth

Posted on 02/11/2016 11:09:14 AM PST by xzins

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To: xzins
Jeb & Rubio seriously damaged their electability, in their remarks. Their comments show a real dearth in understanding not only the physical issues, addressed here; but their understanding of vital elements of the Western moral heritage. As a lifelong Conservative, I was really startled to witness their absolutely stupid comments.

They were probably only trying to sound "politically correct." But if that was their intention, it also throws in doubt their moral credibility.

61 posted on 02/11/2016 12:05:03 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Just the opposite, I sick of men defending our country while women tear it down voting for Leftist, that hate Veterans.


62 posted on 02/11/2016 12:05:33 PM PST by heights
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To: heights

Support means nothing in Iraq and Afghanistan as anyone knows full well.

There are no lines. There is no safe space. The attack can come at any location.

Truck drivers are support....and how did that work with those IEDs?

And who REALLY changes those big tires?


63 posted on 02/11/2016 12:05:49 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: heights

And so the nation can die and lose wars because you’re mad at feminists?


64 posted on 02/11/2016 12:06:45 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ohioan

Amen, Ohio.

The number of skirt-hiders on here is amazing.


65 posted on 02/11/2016 12:07:26 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: taxcontrol
Well, as a former Marine artillery officer, I can tell you that we trained the hell out of everyone to make sure they had a decent understanding of tactics and weapons. That didn't make them infantry, but it still made them more competent than a lot of the chuckleheads we fight.

Heck, even our pilots and lawyers get six months of tactical and weapons training post-commissioning at The Basic School before going to flight or JAG school.

But still, there is a difference between being able to fight competently if you must, and being a professional grunt.

66 posted on 02/11/2016 12:07:34 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: xzins

Well, at least they would learn a sense of Responsibility to American, instead of doing the hair & Nails and Campaigning for a Socialist.


67 posted on 02/11/2016 12:07:58 PM PST by heights
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To: xzins
Jeb OK Drafting Women

I swear this guy has Aspergers.

He keeps saying EXACTLY the opposite thing that would help him in the nomination.

Next, he'll call for an overturning of the Second Amendment, and door-to-door searches for guns.

Mark my words. He's that messed-up.

68 posted on 02/11/2016 12:08:08 PM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: Lazamataz

I have five Leftist nieces that Deserve to be drafted, if not into Combat, than into some sort of Service to America.


69 posted on 02/11/2016 12:10:58 PM PST by heights
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To: Ohioan

Honestly, I have never in my life been a single issue voter. But I will not vote for any candidate in the general election who supports letting women in combat units over the objection of a Service Chief. Couldn’t look my active duty grunt nephew in the face if I did.


70 posted on 02/11/2016 12:11:13 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: xzins

They are taught so as to be able to defend themselves if attacked. That is SIGNIFICANTLY different than operating as a member of an infantry squad.


71 posted on 02/11/2016 12:11:49 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: Lazamataz
He keeps saying EXACTLY the opposite thing that would help him in the nomination.

It's called the George Costanza political strategy.

72 posted on 02/11/2016 12:13:07 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: heights

Well, you’re going to get a lot of those guys killed by supporting his idiocy. I understand the frustration, but we owe it to the guys still carrying the rifles to fight this battle for them.


73 posted on 02/11/2016 12:15:31 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: MortMan

Right, but a disparate impact claim can be defeated if there the policy/procedure that causes the disparate impact is demonstrably related to the requirements of the job in question. I think that, if challenged in court, the military would be able to pretty easily show why strict physical requirements (be they height/weight requirements or fitness test requirements) are demonstrably related to the requirements of combat.

You’re right that this whole issue is caused by the “latest affront to proper gender roles” as you so accurately put it; still, I think that if the services wanted to work around the affront, they would be on constitutionally and legally sound footing.


74 posted on 02/11/2016 12:16:37 PM PST by ojeffers
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Agreed. But when you use the term “letting women in combat,” you play into the militant looneys’ hands. Most normal girls do not want to be in a situation where they may lose limbs, or be turned into vegetables.

Whether they want to speak out, and be targeted for insult by shrill & neurotic harpies; most girls are quite happy to have men do the fighting and protect the women & children.

Jeb & Rubio have let the PC types condition them into a fantasy. It causes one to seriously question their competence.

75 posted on 02/11/2016 12:17:28 PM PST by Ohioan
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They are taught so as to be able to defend themselves if attacked. That is SIGNIFICANTLY different than operating as a member of an infantry squad.

They are the replacement of first availability in an emergency. They are part of the rear guard. Their ability to fight is important.

AND, these nuts ALSO want them as part of those fighting units that you mention.

America doesn't understand the military anymore. Custer didn't say, "Cooks and clerks to the rear. You'll be safe there."

Sheesh...

76 posted on 02/11/2016 12:18:43 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Yes, the Marines train far differently than US Army.

I can tell you having been both an Infantry Sergeant and having worked at a rear echelon US base, the amount of training the non-combat roles receive is AT BEST, a couple of hours of annual training, mostly safety training, and a quick 30 round qualification at paper targets.

I spent 2 years at Ft Leavenworth, Kansas as the range safety officer. I can also tell you that there were several individuals that I knew personally that did NOT do any annual training.


77 posted on 02/11/2016 12:19:11 PM PST by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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To: xzins

Of course you’re right that men are biologically designed to protect women, the physically weaker sex. What I’m saying is men and women are different—mentally, physically, and emotionally. It’s not simply environment—how we’re raised—that makes us different.

Nevertheless, we live in a fantasy land where people now believe legislation and popular votes can overrule the laws of nature. The only way to point out the insanity of it all is to take the “equality” arguments to their logical conclusion. If men and women are equal, then women don’t get to pick and choose while men are potentially forced to serve in combat.


78 posted on 02/11/2016 12:19:31 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: ojeffers
Disparate impact claims are statutory civil rights claims that don't have any relevance to the Constitutional question of whether male only draft registration is legal after the lifting of the combat exclusion.

This is a straight up equal protection argument, and the Supreme Court already held that the military can excluded women from combat units and the draft. What they haven't addressed - though there is a case in the Ninth Circuit right now - is male only registration without a combat exclusion.

79 posted on 02/11/2016 12:21:03 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: xzins

I’m opposed to women in combat and the draft, xzins.


80 posted on 02/11/2016 12:21:34 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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