Posted on 02/03/2016 12:11:55 PM PST by Trumpinator
Maybe you can direct combat operations for NATO under your Troll bridge bunker.
Kremlin pays internet trolls to flatter Putin
Ben Hoyle - Moscow
October 11 2013
Russian investigative journalists and bloggers have uncovered an army of internet trolls paid to pour invective on the Kremlin's opponents and heap praise on President Putin.
Posing as job applicants, the reporters discovered the government hacks working at a small company called the St Petersburg Internet Research Agency. ..."
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/asia/article3891720.ece
British newspaper The Guardian notes that recently, readers have been complaining of pro-Russia propaganda being posted in the comments section of articles about Russia and Ukraine.
One reader wrote to The Guardian:
"One need only pick a Ukraine article at random, pick any point in the comments at random, and they will find themselves in a sea of incredibly aggressive and hostile users (the most obvious have accounts created since February 2014 ... but there also exist those who registered with the Guardian before the high point of the crisis) who post the most biased, inciteful [sic] pro-Kremlin, anti-western propaganda that seems as if it's taken from a template, so repetitive are the statements. Furthermore, these comments are consistently capturing inordinate numbers of 'recommends', sometimes on the order of 10 to 12 times what pro-Ukrainian comments receive."
Guardian comment moderators believe this is an orchestrated campaign.
Russia has worked hard to make people believe that the country is supporting the Russian-speaking population in Ukraine and defending those people against some type of threat. These "comment mills" play into that strategy.
Last year, The Atlantic wrote about how the Russian government apparently pays people to "sit in a room, surf the Internet, and leave sometimes hundreds of postings a day that criticize the country's opposition and promote Kremlin-backed policymakers."
This practice isn't new, according to The Atlantic. But it can stifle open discussion about political issues in Russia, giving a louder voice to those who support the Kremlin.
http://www.businessinsider.com/putin-paying-people-to-post-pro-russia-propaganda-in-comments-2014-5
foreignpolicy.com is a Russian comment sight? Posting news is not propaganda. But it takes a troll to know one I guess.
Strategically, NATO would have two options: retake the Baltics or be rendered irrelevant. Of course, the first option risks a wider war.
We know what you're about. You're a die-hard Putinista. Who do you think you're fooling, besides a handful of young freepers perhaps.
Putin can win 2 different ways with limited war fighting without the fall back of a direct massive invasion as option 3:
The Baltics have sizable Russian populations which are denied a vote - this is good for Putin because he can say their rights are violated and he would be correct. No European - not even the Poles - will fight Russia to deny a minority that was born in that country they live in the right to vote - fighting for Democracy or hypocrites?.
All Putin has to do is send in Spetnaz and Cossacks to mix in with the native Russian male population as they fight in streets. Is NATO going to fight a Civil War to deny a minority the right to vote? I don't think so.
1 So let us say NATO blinks and negotiates that the Baltics must now grant full rights to ethnic Russians - Putin wins again because now there is a sizable Russian political bloc that won't allow the Baltic States to be a reliable NATO partner. Win for Putin again. Limited or no shots fired.
Putin has at least 3 options.
It seems the US foreign policy has been constructed in such a way that the USA has no options - no plan Bs. If any of the foreign policy plans in play fail for the USA it all crumbles.
NATO Loses the Baltics in a shooting war and it means NATO falls apart. If they can't stop a Russian invasion of the Baltics the the only option is nuclear. Bad options for NATO.
Who is we? How many aliases do you have on here? Co-conspirators?
Which is why one of the things that should have happened when Communists were booted out of the satellite countries, was that Poland needed to immediately beef up their military and reform the Commonwealth with the Baltic States and Czechoslovakia/Hungary to be the buffer against Russia, because under NATO they would have their hands tied.
Straight up... who would you support in a (God forbid) Russia-China vs USA-NATO world war? Tell the truth, if you can manage it.
And now your advocating a NATO country should have been encouraged to ethnic cleanse Russians that were born inside the Baltic countries?
So NATO screwed itself. The current situation of the Baltic states in not allowing maybe over a quarter to a third of their population from being full citizens can't last for long with a hungry Russia looking to make mischief and if they grant citizenship to same Russians then Russia just got a disruptive foothold inside 3 NATO countries.
The Germans won't stand up to former Axis allies in the Baltics enacting ethnic cleansing. NATO has a losing hand here.
Matt Eckert: What about Europe?
Col. Andrew Tanner: I guess they figured twice in one century was enough. They're sitting this one out. All except England, and they won't last very long.
Eckert: Well, who is on our side?
Tanner: Six hundred million screamin' Chinamen.
Darryl Bates: Well, last I heard, there were a billion screamin' Chinamen.
Tanner: There were. [throws whiskey into fire, and it violently ignites for a moment, possibly signifying a Soviet nuclear strike on China]
a hungry Russia looking to make mischief? Did that actually come from you?
I am a talented wordsmith.
Well, according to reality, Russia and China are closer than ever military allies.
From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."
http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170287,00.html
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Sept 11, 2014
China and Russia to build major seaport: report
China and Russia will build one of the largest ports in north-east Asia on Russia's Sea of Japan coast, reports say, in a further sign of the powerhouses' growing alliance.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-11/china-and-russia-to-build-major-seaport-report/5738036
“a hungry Russia looking to make mischief”
What exactly did you mean by this?
If Russia invaded Europe, China would move into Russia, that’s been their plan for a long time, their Alliance would last about as long as Hitler and Stalin’s alliance.
You are the one against Trump who wants to end free trade with China. All your free trade traitors are the ones giving Chine the dollars to build her muscles. I am always astounded by the hypocrisy or cognitive dissonance. What a light weight.
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I disagree. The Chinese don't think that way. They think spheres of influence. They built a wall for a reason. The world goes to China to pay tribute - China does not move out of her area to rule. Subjects go to China. Your thinking is Westerner like. China does not think like the west does.
Trump has way more negatives than positives.
Again, explain what you meant by "a hungry Russia looking to make mischief".
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