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Should people be denied choices at the end of life?
Mercatornet ^ | 1/29/16 | Paul Russell

Posted on 01/29/2016 6:18:15 AM PST by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
A euthanasia mindset seems to be common when doctors treat the elderly. My father in law was hospitalized and the doctor came to us for permission to withhold treatment and told us that feeding tubes didn't prolong life. We hadn't been there more than 10 minutes when this happened. We told him no, we expected standard treatment. (This was a large university hospital)

This started a big family argument. It was us and the grand-kids (I was surprised) against the other siblings. His own children wanted to withhold treatment.

Turns out a few days on antibiotics and he was good to go back to assisted living. He lived another two years. He was in his 90’s.

21 posted on 01/29/2016 7:12:55 AM PST by Varda
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To: Travis T. OJustice; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; ...
It's human to put a dog out of it's misery, the same should be available for humans so they don't have to suffer in pain for no decent reason.

Do you have some odd religious belief that animals have souls? Were dogs created in God's image?

Where EXACTLY do you think this "right to die" comes from? The right to life is unalienable, which means we can't give it away.

We don't have a natural claim on death, death has a claim on us.

God luck, my friend, we are about to be attacked mercilessly though by a bunch of nuttybars for our thoughts, though.

"Nuttybars"? Really? Those of us who adhere to six thousand years of Judeo-Christian teachings are "nuttybars"?

Are Christians like us who reject same-sex "marriage" "nuttybars" as well?

22 posted on 01/29/2016 7:20:33 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mears

You’re 83 years old, and twitchy? You might want to be careful who knows.


23 posted on 01/29/2016 7:29:05 AM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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24 posted on 01/29/2016 7:32:47 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Black Agnes

“I know several people who are annoyed that their aging parents are ‘spending my inheritance’ on medical care.”

That’s horrible.

One of the greatest “gifts” our parents gave us, was our parents managing THEIR money well enough to cover their costs thru their final years. This situation transpired pretty much concurrently with my parents and the wife’s parents. The children knew we were in it for the long haul, and whatever it cost...it cost. We (the kids) would’ve gone into our own pockets if the need had arisen, but luckily it didn’t.

Yes, there was some inheritance left over after all was said and done, but you know where those funds went? Into investments so we can pass on the same “gift” to our children.


25 posted on 01/29/2016 7:42:43 AM PST by moovova
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To: wagglebee

Yeah, I’ll just ignore this. I don’t feel like sniffing trash today.


26 posted on 01/29/2016 7:52:42 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I miss my dad.)
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To: wagglebee
our lives are no longer worth living

Lebens unwertes leben ...

That concept should always be expressed in the original German.

27 posted on 01/29/2016 7:55:47 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Black Agnes

“Right to Die” very quickly becomes “Duty to Die.”


28 posted on 01/29/2016 7:56:58 AM PST by dfwgator
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Yeah, I’ll just ignore this.

That has always been the default position for the ignorant.

I don’t feel like sniffing trash today.

Equating the pro-life movement to garbage, that's a new one.

29 posted on 01/29/2016 8:25:24 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BykrBayb

Well said. It should not be state sanctioned.


30 posted on 01/29/2016 8:39:30 AM PST by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: Varda

My mom has a 94 year old aunt. Her medical issues are a pacemaker and bad vision.

A few years ago she needed the battery replaced in her pacemaker. The surgeon told her that when/if ObamaCare went through that she would NOT be eligible for a new battery for said pacemaker because of her age. She has 2ish years left of the battery life.

Other than the pacemaker and eyesight this lady is more together than alot of 50 year olds.


31 posted on 01/29/2016 8:45:44 AM PST by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: Jaded

That is the really sad but expected consequence of having Utilitarian philosophy (look up Peter Singer) informing medical ethics. It came out of the universities and now rules medical decision making.


32 posted on 01/29/2016 9:28:10 AM PST by Varda
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To: wagglebee

That is the bottom line. People can off themselves. But they can’t make others, especially healers, kill them.


33 posted on 01/29/2016 10:54:52 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: wagglebee

bttt


34 posted on 01/29/2016 1:06:42 PM PST by Dante3
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To: trisham
I can only imagine the kind of person who would be attracted to a career in medicine if they were required to euthanize people, for whatever reason.

We already have people who get medical degrees in order to kill people. They are called "abortionists." Some of them are very good at pretending they care, but in reality, they are psychopaths who are incapable of any empathy for another human being.

35 posted on 01/30/2016 5:58:32 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: rstrahan

No one is telling you that you cannot refuse medical treatment. We just don’t want you getting a doctor to kill you. There are all kinds of reasons to not want killer MDs... a LOT of reasons.

No one who is helpless for whatever reason is safe when MDs can kill them rather than treat them. It does not matter what the medical condition is, or whether it is treatable—once a doctor is involved who has nothing against killing, that patient will not survive. As a patient, I do not want someone who is capable of murder to be my caregiver. I don’t care how murder is rationalized—a person who can rationalize it in one context can rationalize it in another.


36 posted on 01/30/2016 6:07:44 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

Yes, good point.


37 posted on 01/30/2016 7:19:14 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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