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Medical marijuana will be on Florida ballot in November
Miami Herald ^

Posted on 01/28/2016 8:33:45 PM PST by TigerClaws

Floridians will decide this November whether to allow medical marijuana in the state.

On Wednesday, a constitutional amendment to legalize the drug gained enough signed petitions to qualify for the ballot next November. If passed, the amendment would allow doctors to prescribe marijuana for people with “debilitating conditions” such as cancer, HIV/AIDS, epilepsy or multiple sclerosis.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article56931218.html#storylink=cpy

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; cannabis; election2016; florida; gaykkk; homosexualagenda; jebbush; libertarians; marcorubio; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; pot; statesrights; tenthamendment; wod
Bad news.

Dem move: Get the libs and young stoners to turn out in a swing state.

1 posted on 01/28/2016 8:33:45 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

We all die. At the end, I dont care if you don’t drive and smoke mary jane.


2 posted on 01/28/2016 8:35:50 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: TigerClaws

Might find a great push back by Grandma and grandpa


3 posted on 01/28/2016 8:35:50 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (how many laws has Cruz sponsored that have become law?)
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To: TigerClaws

I think this is the issue pushed by attorney Morgan. He had crust in his firm after he got beat by Rubio.


4 posted on 01/28/2016 8:44:52 PM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: TigerClaws

I’m in Colorado, and let me tell you what I know about medical marijuana. About 2 - 3% of the marijuana patients actuality need it as a medicine. The rest are recreational users that found a crooked doctor. The medical marijuana laws are a lie and everyone knows it. The real goal is to just diminish laws in general by making us all accept they have no meaning. The longer I live, the more Ayn Rand looks like a prophet.


5 posted on 01/28/2016 8:46:17 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: TigerClaws

In 2014 the Florida ballot initiative got 56% yes and it needed 60%. It will be interesting to if anything has changed and if it gets over 60% this year.


6 posted on 01/28/2016 8:49:56 PM PST by corkoman
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To: JoSixChip

My best friend just died of colon cancer. She was the nicest most devout Christian I have ever met. She was also a nurse.

She used medical marijuana.

She said the only problem was consistency. She had one provider that provided capsules that didn’t get her stone that quit. After that, she had a hard time finding a good privider.

My daughter has a rare movement disorder. I keep on wondering if medical marijuana would help it. I’d be ok if she tried. The other meds for it have terrible side effects.

I think it needs to be regulated like other medication, but it does help with things like nausea.


7 posted on 01/28/2016 8:54:50 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: WENDLE; All

I don’t care about medical pot and, in fact, am for it. People dying or with some genuine medical condition it help should have access.

But Dems can sell this to the young, stupid, stoners and lefties, “First step in making recreational pot legal! And ANY doctor will say you need it so it’s de facto legalization.”

That’ll get a bunch of burnout stoner losers (Democrats) to show up to the polls that might have stayed home and smoked their bong.

Make sense?

It’s like putting an anti-gun law on the ballot in November. That’d bring out our crowd to vote against it so they won’t do it.

This is chess, folks, not checkers.


8 posted on 01/28/2016 8:56:00 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

A plan to bring the freeloading potheads out to vote for Clinton. Works every time it’s tried. These dumbass proposition should not be allowed on the ballot during presidential election years. They truly suck.


9 posted on 01/28/2016 8:56:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Jonas the Snow Monster survivors need to embrace global warming!)
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To: TigerClaws
Medical marijuana will be on Florida ballot in November
It's a dangling carrot to get the Sanders pot heads to the polls.
10 posted on 01/28/2016 8:58:02 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: TigerClaws

I agree. Good thoughts. I know death and I know the value of anything that helps the sting of death. Be sure you understand before you pontificate. I know much heavier stuff that MJ. Leave this to he Doctors.


11 posted on 01/28/2016 9:01:06 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: TigerClaws

It is a shame. This will bring out a certain type of person who is usually not too motivated to vote:

“Hey, dude, is this where we vote? Like, they said if we vote for this Colonel Sanders dude he will like give us free weed, man.”


12 posted on 01/28/2016 9:18:33 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: WENDLE

The true gateway drugs these days are prescription pills coming from doctors (pain meds, ADHD meds).

I’m all for comforting those hurting and really don’t care if people want to get stoned. It’s no worse than alcohol - which is terrible.

But this is POLITICS. Swing state. Close vote. Pot being on the ballot could tip the damn national election.


13 posted on 01/28/2016 9:30:55 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: JoSixChip

We had built a summer home in Colorado in 2008. It was peaceful and serene. Since this marijuana stuff became legal every tom, Dick and Harry s moving there. They are coming to get high and rich. Now our serenity is surrounded by squatters living in tents and old trucks and throwing their sewage into Rio Grande River. We have 5 pot places within 10 miles from us. The schools are overwhelmed by these poor kids who as the newspaper put it “craps in 5 gallon buckets” and don’t bathe. There is a medical marijuana in Florida called Charlottes Web. I don’t know where that stands today. This marijuana thing was pushed by Charlie turncoat Crist and Morgan and Morgan attorneys “for the people”. Trash.


14 posted on 01/28/2016 9:48:35 PM PST by lilypad
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To: Mouton

Medical pot is a freaking LIE of massive proportion. John Morgan is a pimp— pure and simple, a manipulative whoring drunkard who should have stayed a telephone repairman, but instead became the obese prematurely aged power freak who never goes to court and makes his money from consolidating ambulance chasing cases. That former Gov. Crist (Yebbies sponsored “boy” and noted polesmoker with a millionairess wife as a “beard” for his queerness) ended up in Morgan’s “firm” speaks volumes.
This initiative needs to go down in defeat. FL has enough crime as it is without introduction of the “off street” pharmacists who will try to make a buck off the “legal” prescriptive market— that won’t be sold through true pharmacy prescription. That’s a fact. f’n stoners— useless feminized fatties with man-tits and zero motivation or focus. Rant over. Now really do have a goal to stop this, cold.


15 posted on 01/28/2016 10:28:02 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: TigerClaws

Medical marijuana will be on Florida ballot in November


Then they need to hire a different printer that doesn’t smoke it while printing the Florida ballots. ;-)


16 posted on 01/28/2016 10:30:40 PM PST by r_barton (I'm a trumpeter for TRUMP, not one of the CruZEROS.)
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To: WENDLE

Indeed- we already have prescription THC (highly potent form) in Marinol— legal THC prescribed quite a lot for cancer and other patients. People don’t need to go to a head shop for administration of the active ingredient, particularly when there have not been ANY double blind true studies to prove any pain alleviation or other efficacy.
Physicians have a rather large variety of other agents to help people, including opiates and Class 2 pain meds.

This is a non-starter ballot option, because the money made from any “legalized” pot will not— under FL banking laws, be allowed to be deposited in a bank— so all sorts of criminal cover and criminal element will get involved, more than they already are.


17 posted on 01/28/2016 10:33:54 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: JoSixChip
The longer I live, the more Ayn Rand looks like a prophet.

Ayn Rand certainly wouldn't have supported the ludicrous notion that the State should subject someone to prison time just for possessing the wrong plant...

18 posted on 01/28/2016 10:46:49 PM PST by sargon
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To: corkoman
In 2014 the Florida ballot initiative got 56% yes and it needed 60%. It will be interesting to if anything has changed and if it gets over 60% this year.

It was actually 58% yes. Young voters turn out in greater numbers during presidential elections, so that will likely work to its advantage in 2016.

19 posted on 01/28/2016 11:40:20 PM PST by Ken H
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To: John S Mosby

You very eloquently stated my case for me. I think this would be the death knell for this state were that to become a constitutional amendment.


20 posted on 01/29/2016 4:34:08 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: TigerClaws; Ken H

“Dem move: Get the libs and young stoners to turn out in a swing state.”

Trump and Cruz both support the Tenth Amendment.

Trump => As far as legalizing pot in general, he said, “I really believe we should leave it up to the states.”

http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2015/10/trump_says_states_should_decid.html

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Cruz => If the citizens of Colorado decide they want to go down that road, that’s their prerogative. I personally don’t agree with it, but that’s their right.”

—Ted Cruz CPAC February 26 2015


21 posted on 01/29/2016 7:09:39 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: John S Mosby
we already have prescription THC (highly potent form) in Marinol

"The poor solubility of Marinol in aqueous solutions and its high first-pass metabolism in the liver account for its poor bioavailability; only 10-20% of an oral dose reaches the systemic circulation. The onset of action is slow; peak plasma concentrations are not attained until two to four hours after dosing. In contrast, inhaled marijuana is rapidly absorbed. In a study comparing THC administered orally, by inhalation, and intravenously, plasma concentration peaked almost instantaneously after both inhalation and intravenous administration" ( http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6376&page=203)

"for certain patients, such as the terminally ill or those with debilitating symptoms, the long-term risks [of smoking] are not of great concern. [...] it will likely be many years before a safe and effective cannabinoid delivery system, such as an inhaler, is available for patients. In the meantime there are patients with debilitating symptoms for whom smoked marijuana might provide relief. [...] Until a nonsmoked rapid-onset cannabinoid drug delivery system becomes available, we acknowledge that there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting." ( http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6376&page=7 and page 8)

Physicians have a rather large variety of other agents to help people, including opiates

Opiates are much more addictive than THC - and unlike THC can be fatal. And why is it government's job to decide when we have "enough" medicines for a given condition? Leave it up to doctors and patients.

22 posted on 01/29/2016 7:15:45 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: TigerClaws

Great news!!! People in need will be able to get some much needed relief. The measure defined a “debilitating medical condition” as cancer, multiple sclerosis, glaucoma, hepatitis C, HIV, AIDS, ALS, Crohn’s disease, Parkinson’s disease “or other conditions for which a physician believes that the medical use of marijuana would likely outweigh the potential health risks for a patient.”

If you’re against this, I feel sorry for you. More freedom is always better!


23 posted on 01/29/2016 10:09:06 AM PST by TheStickman
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To: John S Mosby

Excellent points.


24 posted on 01/29/2016 10:57:59 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Right- THC can’t be fatal. Think again. The route of administration by smoking dope- has vastly more carcinogens than Camel no filters. How do you overcome the aqueous solution issue? you solvate it in water and steam inhale it(that of course never crossed the mental midgetry of whomever wrote the “review” an obvious non-clinician) oral admin is not the only way. Whoever wrote this excerpt has zero experience in clinical pharmacology. All dressed up and full of crapola. But, why let clinical pharmacology and reality get in the way of the need for the general population to be stoned and hooked on yet another agent— which will of course, not be enough. 30 years in clinical pharmacology, forensic and investigative/proprietary biochemistry in agri-business and veterinary and human medicine. There are legal, excellent means to help these patients— and this and all other “street” grown/distributed kabuki are lies- plain and simple. The test market of Colorado has more than proven this. Alcohol is certainly bad enough. The Amsterdam answer is no answer at all. What is also fascinating is new British data on the genetic markers for many forms of cancer— the markers exist in the genome, and demonstrated environmental triggers accelerating the cancers— tobacco and other plant source chemicals that are inhaled through smoke. Far more carcinogens in pot than the best RJ Reynolds can produce with all their flavourizing and additives. So, to “help” the sick we should make this available to our youth to expand the patient base for CA? Wonderful.


25 posted on 01/29/2016 12:47:53 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
Opiates are much more addictive than THC - and unlike THC can be fatal.

Right- THC can't be fatal. Think again. The route of administration by smoking dope- has vastly more carcinogens than Camel no filters.

That's not the THC, is it? There is no known toxic dose of THC for humans, whereas death from opiate overdose is all too well known.

steam inhale it

At which point we're no longer talking about Marinol. The cannabis plant can be used with a vaporizer.

There are legal, excellent means to help these patients—

I repeat: 'And why is it government's job to decide when we have "enough" medicines for a given condition? Leave it up to doctors and patients.'

and this and all other "street" grown/distributed kabuki are lies- plain and simple. The test market of Colorado has more than proven this.

How did Colorado prove this? Alcohol is certainly bad enough. Should we ban it?

26 posted on 01/29/2016 1:08:01 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: TigerClaws

The “medical” part is just a ruse, as usual. They might as well just legalize the whole shebang and stop pretending.


27 posted on 01/29/2016 3:31:54 PM PST by fwdude
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To: John S Mosby

Can’t you get it in by a patch, such as with nicotine?


28 posted on 01/29/2016 5:48:06 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009
That would also be slow-onset so difficult to titrate (that is, take as much and only as much as necessary to address current severity of symptoms).
29 posted on 01/29/2016 5:56:44 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Morpheus2009

Not too well with a transdermal patch. Studies have been done with a sub lingual dissolving tab which increased bioavailability of THC in the bloodstream. Point being as before, there is already legal prescription means to obtain medical THC, and investigating many more routes of administration— for JUST the reason that the “lack of medical” access is a ruse for street drug dealers/growers and frankly.. the Mob, to “provide the service”.

Most here have missed the genetic marker/trigger trials that have been done recently in the UK— indicating triggers for gene segments ID’d with early onset schizophrenia. Major increase in schizoid symptoms seen with chronic modern pot use— seen earlier in life as well. But, let’s count all that out, in deference to the street seller “taxation” crowd in liberal land. Your children will thank you.


30 posted on 01/31/2016 3:22:12 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

Yeah, I don’t use it. I also didn’t trust the stuff either. I would love to read about the UK trials.


31 posted on 02/03/2016 7:42:50 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

Been in The Lancet and also Annals of Internal Medicine, as well as Genetics. The identification of gene sections coding for schizoid triggering by environmental stimulus is of great interest— and also great derision from the addicts who are pushing this for their alternate employment for themselves and their aimless rug rats.


32 posted on 02/03/2016 3:12:20 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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