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Cruz Super PAC Warns of 'TrumpCare' in New Ad
National Review Online ^ | January 25, 2016 | TIM ALBERTA

Posted on 01/25/2016 9:27:19 PM PST by CA Conservative

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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Is Ted Cruz getting rid of Medicaid? Because I hadn’t heard about that.


41 posted on 01/25/2016 10:04:25 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Catsrus

The ad, created by Keep the Promise I and shared first with NRO....


Bwahahahha. National RINOview.


42 posted on 01/25/2016 10:05:44 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Notice you don't say: "I pasted the entire exchange!" You just claim it's available, and then assert that what I said is "false" even as you basically reveal your dishonesty. Now you're demanding that I do what you were too dishonest to do for yourself.

I pasted the ENTIRE exchange between Trump and Pelley on the topic of health care. There is nothing else. You made the claim it was out of context. So back it up.

43 posted on 01/25/2016 10:06:38 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You repeat the same BS even after multiple refutations or as if we never discussed it before.

Well, you keep repeating the same drivel, so I have to keep correcting you. Stop saying stupid things and I won't have to clean up after you.

44 posted on 01/25/2016 10:07:12 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Medicaid does not cover everyone who cannot afford insurance. If you think it does, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Now that I think about it, I can't afford health insurance and medicaid won't cover me. I haven't had health insurance for years.

45 posted on 01/25/2016 10:07:19 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: CA Conservative
Well, you keep repeating the same drivel, so I have to keep correcting you

You're not correcting anybody when your responses are entirely irrelevant to anything I say. You are delusional.

46 posted on 01/25/2016 10:08:12 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
See, this is the problem. People who think they know what they're talking about, and proceed on those assumptions, don't.

Medicaid does not cover everyone who cannot afford coverage on their own. I'd think anyone who followed the health care debate would know that on their own ,but apparently not.

Even with the Medicaid expansion under Obamacare, millions of people who still make too much to qualify, but not enough to afford insurance on their own. And then there's all the states that didn't even expand Medicaid, where the problem is worse.

So, Trump's promise to cover "anyone" does indeed go much further than a a Obamacare.

By the way, I assume that Trump is going to keep an individual.mandate, right? Otherwise, "everyone" won't covered unless the goverment really does pay for it, for everyone.

47 posted on 01/25/2016 10:11:15 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: CA Conservative

I didn’t think anyone was stupid enough to still think Trump is pushing single payer.

Sorry to those of you who are.

My apologies.

Perhaps Jim should set up a section for non-fully functional people.


48 posted on 01/25/2016 10:12:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EDST)
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To: catnipman

Beautiful. Love the tag line too btw. Go Trump. Tttt


49 posted on 01/25/2016 10:13:32 PM PST by Kudsman (Restore the Republic, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

Let's see - it will save money, you can have your own plan, you can have your own doctor... Where have I heard that before??? Oh yeah, that's what they told us about Obamacare! But I guess we are supposed to believe it because it is Trump telling us.

50 posted on 01/25/2016 10:14:16 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: DoughtyOne
I didn't think anyone was stupid enough to still think Trump is pushing single payer.

Work on your reading comprehension. I didn't say Trump is pushing single-payer - I said he still believes in single payer, but he is not pushing it now for political reasons. If he were elected, I would not be surprised to see him go back to that position.

51 posted on 01/25/2016 10:17:43 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: catnipman

Yup, exactly. Too bad so many FReepers don’t get it, or have short memories.


52 posted on 01/25/2016 10:18:42 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more)
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To: bigbob

Big Bob, you just don’t understand that there are folks here that get very,very upset if you say things like that. They think every little thing Ted Cruz or one of his PACs does is going to cause Donald Trump to turn tail back to New York. So I have adopted the policy that reality will set in soon enough and until then we can just play pretend.


53 posted on 01/25/2016 10:19:08 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: CA Conservative

Read that article again, and then you address the folks on the forum to this day that still claim he’s pushing single payer.


54 posted on 01/25/2016 10:19:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Free Republic Caucus: vote daily / watch for the thread / Starts 01/20 midnight to midnight EDST)
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To: DoughtyOne
Read that article again, and then you address the folks on the forum to this day that still claim he's pushing single payer.

Can you point to any statement that he has made to indicate he does NOT believe in single-payer?? Not a statement that he doesn't believe it will work here right now, but that he believes as a matter of principle that the government should not be in charge of our healthcare??? Because I have never seen any such statement from him.

55 posted on 01/25/2016 10:30:37 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: dynoman

These are Cruz Christian values, man of faith.


56 posted on 01/25/2016 10:31:47 PM PST by jennychase
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To: SubMareener
Lol. I've noticed a couple of your Mr. Cruz cheerleader posts. I may adopt a similar tactic until the Tediban realize it's already over. You can't help them. Poor Ted blacked out after that fist bump shot and I think there was a collective swoon as Veep Beck swore a dazed man into the secret society of compass worshippers. I heard they are still searching the place for the mouthpiece. All fears are now that Ted may have swallowed it. Peace out!
57 posted on 01/25/2016 10:34:13 PM PST by Kudsman (Restore the Republic, repeal the 17th.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Trump has clearly stated that he supports a free market solution, including reforms such allowing interstate purchase of insurance. All that he says he’d leave in place in Medicaid and Medicare—and Cruz hasn’t said he’d dismantle Medicaid or Medicare.


58 posted on 01/25/2016 10:34:26 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: jennychase
These are Cruz Christian values, man of faith.

You did see that this came from a PAC and not the Cruz campaign, right? So why attack Cruz's faith over this?

59 posted on 01/25/2016 10:35:23 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Here is the issue. There are two schools of thought.

1. Repeal Obamacare, period.

2. Repeal and Replace Obamacare.

The problem with #1 is very simple. Once an Entitlement is enacted, it is never repealed. As I have asked on this Forum numerous times, what Entitlement just went away without a whimper?

No Democrats rioting in the Streets, no Media targeting the Evil purveyors who passed such a thing, no end to Life as we know it, no Lawsuits settled by Liberal Judges. It has never happened because it never can and it never will.

You can “adjust” and “revise” Entitlements, just as the so called “Full” Retirement date of Social Security was changed from 65 to 67, but it will never be eliminated. Notice how the early Retirement age of 62 wasn’t touched? Wonder why? LOL

Tweaking an existing Government Entitlement is the only thing any Politician who hopes to win Reelection can accomplish, and even that is an uphill battle.

This whole Single Payer argument died when Medicare was established, but certain people just don’t want to admit it.

It stares them in the face every day, and many who despise the concept of Single Payer are fat and happy Medicare Beneficiaries, especially ones with the no Premium Supplemental Plans that take care of everything. Doesn’t matter if you paid into it, it is an Entitlement that returns much more to the Beneficiaries (if they live that long) than they ever paid into it.

I am a Cruz guy but I have yet to hear what will happen if he manages to get rid of Obamacare without a plan to take care of the People who will lose their Healthcare Coverage.
I will have to research it and see.

You can’t just “disappear” Obamacare to the Cornfield like Billy Mummy did to people he didn’t like on the Twilight Zone.

A Politician’s promises and a Politician’s accomplishments when in Office are two different things. We will not know a thing about any of our Candidate choices until one of them attains the Office they seek. Until we defeat the DemoncRat challenger in the General, everything is speculation.

Jut my $.02, your Mileage may vary.


60 posted on 01/25/2016 10:36:32 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Get the CDS and TDS Vaccines before it's too late.)
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