Lawbreaking Bikers Promote Anti-Second Amendment Message

Ammoland ^ | 24 January, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

People all along the East Coast are increasingly being subjected to a low level of lawless intimidation with massive traffic intimidation by a subculture of outlaw bikers.  This is a separate subculture that revels in their ability to escape police and to break traffic laws with impunity.  You will not find many, if any, Harleys, street bikes or touring bikes among them.  I did not see any riders with recognizable "colors" that are emblematic of motorcycle clubs that have significant reach.  Most are unlicensed dirt bikes and ATVs.  The riders have learned to break the law with impunity, especially in large, semi-organized groups.

The bikes give them the ability to go places where police cars or even conventional police motorcycles cannot go, and police organizations have been under pressure not to chase the law breakers for fear of causing accidents. In many areas the police have given up on enforcing the law, and have broadcast their intentions to the public.

This serves to empower and reinforce the attitudes of the outlaws.

The most famous recent example of the lawlessness associated with these events was the video from New York in 2013.  At least five off duty police officers were present when the bikers beat a motorist who dared to defy their lawlessness, and attempted to flee.  Hundreds of lawless motorcyclists pursued the family and the motorist, blocking off avenues of escape, eventually cornering the vehicle, dragging the driver from the SUV, and beating the man senseless in front of his wife and baby.  One off-duty police officer was convicted of felonies in the incident.

[marktwain]

These large groups of primarily minority lawless motorcyclists will not convince many to give up their Second Amendment rights.

[mrsmel]

I thought that I remembered an elephant from that story which was being ignored, the bikers who harassed the family and beat the father.

[taxcontrol]

If anything, I can see this encouraging the exercise of those rights becoming more common.

[sargon]

"Bikes up, guns down" was not an anti-Second Amendment message, but more of a call for the street criminal element to put their internecine conflicts aside for a few hours so they could ride ATVs and dirt bikes around like lunatics, and harass and endanger motorists...

[hanamizu]

St. Louis area has this problem as well. All of a sudden hundreds of bikes appear on the interstates, doing wheelies, etc.

[Big Red Badger]

Enduro type bikes and Quads,

shades of Road Warriors and Charlie Manson!

[MHGinTN]

Carry more spare magazines. I like the 32 round Glock sticks ...

[Bogey78O]

These are urban black bike gangs.

They are bold because enobosy has lit them up for their lawlessness.

[Tupelo]

My reading tells me that these “bikers”have one thing in common. And it ain’t motorcycles.

[msrngtp2002]

Wow - those bikes are pretty hard to see from inside my truck. Weaving and blocking my path might cause me to be confused which might result in my hitting one or more of them. I just don’t see how even a hundred bikes will be able to stop my truck when I have to flee to avoid their wrath.

After a few of them get mowed down in the name of self defense by a large vehicle this too will stop.

I ride a Harley - and like the article says you don’t see anything but dirt bikes, crotch rockets and ATV’s in these packs.

[steelwheels]

The bikes give them the ability to go places where police cars or even conventional police motorcycles cannot go, and police organizations have been under pressure not to chase the law breakers for fear of causing accidents. In many areas the police have given up on enforcing the law, and have broadcast their intentions to the public.

Simple solution. Dispatch helicopter on one law breaker, capture, confiscate vehicle, heavy fine ($15,000), imprison for 1 year, 3 year probation, publicize.

[biff]

In Houston during the early 70’s lane splitting was illegal but bikers would do it daily on the traffic packed commutes. My boss, who was getting ready to trade in his old clunker, had enough of it and when a biker decided to split he opened his door. Crash goes the biker and his insurance paid for a new door.

[Chode]

I did not see any riders with recognizable "colors"

didn't see any RED or BLUE headrags etc...? please

[Beagle8U]

“My experience with the motorcycle culture is that members tend to be pro-Second Amendment. This sub-culture differs by being more urban, more lawless, and depends on the anonymity that is produced by helmets and unlicensed dirt bikes.”

The biggest difference is 99% of this group aren’t legally able own a firearm due to their VERY long criminal record.

Any message by a group of felons about disarming their victims will be taken with several grains of salt.

[Beagle8U]

“Simple solution. Dispatch helicopter on one law breaker, capture, confiscate vehicle, heavy fine ($15,000), imprison for 1 year, 3 year probation, publicize.”

It makes no difference to them. 99% are stolen, have no plates or insurance, and the riders already have warrants out on them. The cops don’t want to arrest them because the courts won’t keep them locked up!

[Polynikes]

A 2X4 between the cab and bed of a pickup does the same thing plus saves the door.

[biff]

That does not appear innocent. Opening the door was his excuse to spit his tobacco(he chewed and dipped) so the cops let it go. I think now it is legal in major cities in Texas to lane split.

[biff]

Forgot, as to the door, he needed the left side of the car(had been keyed) painted to get more on the trade in.

[Blue Collar Christian]

I moved to AZ from CA and was disappointed to see that it is not legal to split lanes here in AZ.

I’ll tell you what though, if while I was riding up between lanes there in CA, if someone opened their door and caused me to crash, he better hope I die, because he’d be in for one heck of a whippin’ when I got up.

As far as I’m concerned, that biker in your boss’s case should be cited for his lane splitting violation, and your boss should be charged with assault and battery, if not attempted murder.

What a jerk.

[biff]

I agree, after 5 decades of riding. However, the bikers were breaking the law and they were very blatant about it. I just wasn’t foolish enough to ride in Houston back then, especially during rush hours.