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What makes Ted Cruz truly dangerous - OMG - He has "empathy!"
Washington Post ^ | January 20, 2016 | Ruth Marcus

Posted on 01/20/2016 2:21:12 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Tax-chick

Washington’s Rules of civility should be required reading by all politicians.


41 posted on 01/20/2016 4:04:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: cripplecreek

That and the complete works of Thomas Sowell ;-).


42 posted on 01/20/2016 4:05:38 AM PST by Tax-chick (Onions are a woman's weapon.)
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To: Cboldt

I won’t get into the weeds but from what I’ve read over the years it’s been obvious to me the founders intent was for both parents to be US citizens to have a NBC child. BTW, Rubio and Jindal have the same problem, IMHO.

But! Congress and the courts have chosen to ignore that intent over the years and adjusted the laws to reflect it to be needing to be only one parent.

Otherwise, 0bama would also be unqualified to be president and we’ve lived the lie for 8 years now.


43 posted on 01/20/2016 4:06:20 AM PST by Morgan in Denver (Democrats will say or do anything since the end justifies the means.)
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To: Cboldt

I won’t get into the weeds but from what I’ve read over the years it’s been obvious to me the founders intent was for both parents to be US citizens to have a NBC child. BTW, Rubio and Jindal have the same problem, IMHO.

But! Congress and the courts have chosen to ignore that intent over the years and adjusted the laws to reflect it to be needing to be only one parent.

Otherwise, 0bama would also be unqualified to be president and we’ve lived the lie for 8 years now.


44 posted on 01/20/2016 4:06:21 AM PST by Morgan in Denver (Democrats will say or do anything since the end justifies the means.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yes, I agree. I was commenting that we shouldn’t hold him up as a bastion of verbal temperance. Great patriot, general and President, just not a lightweight when it came to temper and “purity” in language.


45 posted on 01/20/2016 4:08:08 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: ripnbang

The difference is that he considered displays of temper and profane language to be failings, rather than virtues.

If I drop a pot on my foot, I’m likely to yell (blank!). However, I don’t use vulgar invective in every other sentence. (You don’t need “swear words” if you have an Unabridged Dictionary.)


46 posted on 01/20/2016 4:13:54 AM PST by Tax-chick (Onions are a woman's weapon.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Once we have an election that does NOT involve an individual with this potential controversy, there should be a final ruling on this.

The congress should take it up, pass a measure (one way or another)to clarify. The election following this, should produce a candidate with “standing” and then we can have a final answer, once & for all. If not, it becomes an Article V matter, if the political class refuses to act.

The more foreign nationals who are permitted to roll into the homeland, given some sort of legal status of one kind or another, the more URGENT this becomes.


47 posted on 01/20/2016 4:17:08 AM PST by Dana1960
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To: Morgan in Denver
I think you see it correctly. Maybe not with great depth of understanding why, or the legal reasoning, but you do understand. I agree 100% with all of your statements.

Congress has been derelict in discharge of duty, the courts have stood by and watched. Obama is not qualified for the office. He is, in fact, the first to openly usurp the office (he openly admits being born a dual citizen).

Rubio and Jindal likewise are unqualified, of that I have no doubt, but it is a more difficult legal case because they were born in the US, and SCOTUS, a century ago, handed down an awful citizenship precedent that is being extended into a presidential qualifications precedent.

The public, bless their hearts they really are, mostly, a good people, are gullible and ignorant. They can be and are manipulated in ways that are unhealthy for the future of the nation, and they don't even suspect a thing.

48 posted on 01/20/2016 4:17:22 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I read where Ted thinks Glenn Beck will help him as they campaign together Saturday in Iowa.

Sarah Palin endorses Donald Trump.

I'm feeling nauseous.

49 posted on 01/20/2016 4:17:39 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: TexasCajun

: )


50 posted on 01/20/2016 4:20:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The meaning of residence is stronger in the legal sense used in that act and it is not c/w Cruz's circumstances at birth.

John Jay wrote to George Washington, President of the Constitutional Convention,"Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government; and to declare expressly that the command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a natural born citizen." Jay not only knew of Vattel, as can be seen from his correspondence with James Madison in 1780 during treaty negotiations with Spain, but he was also a proponent of Vattel as well.

The first immigration act was passed by our First Congress in 1790. In chapter III we find direct references to Vattel's assertion that citizenship is derived from the father, in that citizenship was prohibited to children whose fathers have never gave intent to permanently reside of the United States.

In this same act, we also find the clarification of a Natural Born Citizen, as being one "And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens:Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been a resident in the United States."

Residency was defined in that same act as someone under oath declaring that they wished to remain and live in the United States.

51 posted on 01/20/2016 4:21:15 AM PST by JayGalt
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To: Dana1960

Congress already knows the answer. It is playing dumb or issuing “no comment” because it doesn;t want to uphold the constitution. Congress is a subversive body.


52 posted on 01/20/2016 4:22:08 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: JayGalt

This “Birth Bone” is a manufactured distraction to avoid talking about Trump’s Natural Born LIBERALISM.


53 posted on 01/20/2016 4:23:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ted has character and true conservative principles. DT has neither.


54 posted on 01/20/2016 4:26:01 AM PST by libbylu (Trump's supporters have the same brain disease as Hillary's supporters)
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To: JayGalt
Read these ... Hearings on H.J.Res 88 - July 24, 2000
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOREIGN-BORN CITIZENS TO BE PRESIDENT

The arguments in there are modern, and they are compelling. Advocates for permitting naturalized citizens to hold the office are presented as well, so it's not a one-sided screed.

55 posted on 01/20/2016 4:29:06 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Tax-chick

Reproach none for the Infirmities of Nature, nor Delight to Put them that have in mind thereof.

Show not yourself glad at the Misfortune of another though he were your enemy.

Associate yourself with Men of good Quality if you Esteem your own Reputation; for ‘is better to be alone than in bad Company.

Let your Conversation be without Malice or Envy, for ‘is a Sign of a Tractable and Commendable Nature: And in all Causes of Passion admit Reason to Govern.

Utter not base and frivolous things amongst grave and Learned Men nor very Difficult Questions or Subjects, among the Ignorant or things hard to be believed, Stuff not your Discourse with Sentences amongst your Betters nor Equals.

A Man ought not to value himself of his Achievements, or rare Qualities of wit; much less of his riches Virtue or Kindred.

Detract not from others neither be excessive in Commanding.

Reprehend not the imperfections of others for that belongs to Parents Masters and Superiors.

Think before you Speak pronounce not imperfectly nor bring out your Words too hastily but orderly & distinctly.

In Disputes, be not So Desirous to Overcome as not to give Liberty to each one to deliver his Opinion and Submit to the Judgment of the Major Part especially if they are Judges of the Dispute.

Speak not Evil of the absent for it is unjust.

When you speak of God or his attributes, let it be seriously & with reverence. Honor & obey your natural parents although they be poor.

Let your recreations be manful not sinful.

Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire called conscience.


56 posted on 01/20/2016 4:31:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
-- This "Birth Bone" is a manufactured distraction to avoid talking about Trump's Natural Born LIBERALISM. --

The question of qualification to hold the office, by accident of birth, is a distraction that exists because Cruz was born in Canada to one citizen parent.

The fact that the press, Congress and others are trying to sell an unqualified candidate as being a qualified one is an interesting thing.

But no matter how interesting, that issue is one of many, and people do multitask. Cruz's qualifications are IRRELEVANT to consideration of Trump. Those are two separate issues, two separate candidates.

57 posted on 01/20/2016 4:33:05 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This "Birth Bone" is a manufactured distraction to avoid talking about Trump's Natural Born LIBERALISM.

Aye, tis a distraction which is why some insert it into all threads. I'm ignoring it at this point.
58 posted on 01/20/2016 4:33:35 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That is a nonstarter. Relying on the Constitution and studying it to decide its most precise meanings and why particular words were chosen is important. It is the Constitution that has allowed America to develop into a Nation of laws and individual freedoms. Ignore it at peril, without it we can become another banana republic.

Cruz should not be shredding the constitution even if he believes he should lead America. Trying to ignore the elephant in the room by pretending loudly you think the color of the drapes is not quite as red as it could be is not a winning strategy.


59 posted on 01/20/2016 4:35:01 AM PST by JayGalt
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To: Cboldt

You’re “string-pulling” to distract from Trump’s conservative inadequacies.


60 posted on 01/20/2016 4:36:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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