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Cruz: "As President, I'll defend our Constitution!"
Facebook.com ^ | 1/13/2016 | Ted Cruz

Posted on 01/13/2016 6:43:03 AM PST by Jim W N

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To: wintertime

I knew it was bad when Bush did NOTHING about the vandalism of the White House and Vice President offices and of Air Force One.

Yep. That guy was a complete dud.

He continues to be.

41 posted on 01/13/2016 9:03:47 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: wintertime

It really doesn’t matter if he did. The key is that it would apply to someone like that in the future.

Arab Prince

or

Any of Grace Kelley’s kids

Or

El Chapo’s kid who was actually born here.

Etc.


42 posted on 01/13/2016 9:07:39 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

I am not sure Trump will do so either.
In fact I am wondering whether he is running to see how far he can get and should he be elected, have little clue about how to govern: almost like he surprised himself by winning.
But again, they all are to an extent.
I WANT to believe that Zerohiseff will be thoroughly repudiated by having his EO’s immediately revoked. I am not sure anyone has absolutely claimed they will do this. I WANT a justice department who will bring criminal charges against Hitlery. I want a state department who stands up to the UN and tells our Islamic “friends” to back the hell off. And I WANT a president who seals this border and sends back the illegals and refuses any “Syrian” refugees.

I think Cruz has indicated he would do many of these things, but I want it ironclad in writing promised.

Like you I watched appalled that the leftists waltzed away with our danged china and there were NO REPERCUSSIONS for any of those criminals.

I like Cruz because he stood alone against the entire Senate. ALL of them who trashed him and excoriated him for doing what he promised to do, what they ALL on the goppy side promised to do. And they left him hanging. Maybe it was just a Mr. Smith Goes to Washington moment but it was a principled stand.

I understand he DID vote for the fast track trade authority but that is not the same as voting for the treaty.

And everyone who voted for the Corker bill should have their gonads severely punished.

But I do think the Constitution matters greatly.It is the basis for our existence. We have too long allowed the “living constitution” side to simply rend it as they see fit. Trump likes the expanded ruling on eminent domain. Trump is fine with the NSA corralling phone calls and other info.

I am between Trump and Cruz...I LIKE the way Trump has played the media and how he has made Hitlery twist in her panties...the way she is going she may not even be the nominee!

This is a watershed election imho.

IF Trump wins I will enthusiasticly support him as I would if Cruz wins the nod.


43 posted on 01/13/2016 9:39:11 AM PST by Adder (Get back, Lo-retta!)
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To: Wissa
Cruz uses “Constitution” as a hypnotic trigger word. He simply says “Constitution” and his supporters fall into a swoon.

Yup, he wastes so many letters of the alphabet, all Trumps folks need to here him say is I. 8^)

44 posted on 01/13/2016 9:47:04 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes; Wissa

That is all that is needed for some people. Just like some people respond to Ted’s implicit message that he’s memorized more Bible verses than any of the other candidates.
Very VERY well said.

The average American doesn’t respond to a bunch of esoteric talk about the Constitution.

They respond to “I’m going to build a wall. It’ll be the biggest and the best wall you’ve ever seen. And I’ll make Mexico pay for it!”


After 7 years of seeing our current president violate the Constitution...and our Congress allowing it to happen, I would think that a good president would be able to articulate why it’s important to follow the Constitution.

After all the President does take this oath...
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Also a president needs to articulate what separation of powers is and the obligation of the executive branch to execute and enforce the laws of the United States.

Just when you think people don’t respond to “esoteric talk about the Constitution” is exactly when we need a president to follow the constitution and articulate the necessity of returning to our founding principles and the rule of law.

And as for the Bible verses comment...I am stunned as to how many people here on FR take a swipe at Cruz because of his faith.
This is supposedly a pro-God website correct?


45 posted on 01/13/2016 10:33:16 AM PST by kygolfman
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To: kygolfman
You're completely wrong. I appreciate the sentiment. I would LIKE for that to happen. But I'm also a realist.

When our side starts talking about Article this or whatever in the Constitution, people tune out.

They don't care. The average American doesn't even have the capability to even understand Constitutional issues.

People care about the hundreds of Mexicans in the trailer parks all over their towns.

People care that their jobs suck and there's not a damned thing they can do about it.

People care about stiff like that. They don't care about stuff they heard in civics class.

46 posted on 01/13/2016 11:08:12 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: kygolfman
Most people are not looking for their president to spend their time lecturing them on history. Or did you have something else in mind when you talk about "articulating the necessity of returning to our founding principles". Outside of a few on FreeRepublic, people are just looking for somebody to make the country better.

As to religion, Cruz seems to be staking out a position where he will be the candidate most likely to appeal to those who feel the solution to all our problems will come from prayer. Most people aren't in that category, and if the president hopes to lead the country out of our current problems, and through the new ones that come up, he's not going to get many people to follow where he tries to lead if he presents himself that way. Even less so if he's thinking he'll lead by getting the population of the country to put pressure on their representatives and senators by calling them and telling them to "adhere to the founding principles".

47 posted on 01/13/2016 11:32:34 AM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: Wissa

With respect to religion...
I was just referring to the fact about how many people here on FR take shots at Cruz because of his faith.
I am sorry to see that here on FR.

And Evangelical voters in Iowa are routinely made fun of here on FR...

Are people not supposed to have religious beliefs or foundations when discussing political issues?


48 posted on 01/13/2016 12:22:28 PM PST by kygolfman
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

I agree with you that people are more concerned about their lives...

I guess I made it sound like I wanted the president to sound like a constitutional scholar...I know that isn’t the answer.

But a president can talk about the Constitution in a way for people to understand why freedom of religion is important...or why the federal government is too big and is not the answer to every problem...and why the 2nd amendment is important to our freedom...or why it’s important to enforce the laws we have.


49 posted on 01/13/2016 12:31:31 PM PST by kygolfman
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To: kygolfman
You've got a good point, but Cruz seeming to make his faith a major part of why people should back him raises thoughts of the evangelical voting bloc supporting Jimmy Carter because of his faith, or staying home from the voting booth after they read a political hit piece on Bush a week before the election pointing out something he did in college. He had apparently lost his "purity" in their minds.

It raises suspicions that those that base their votes on that would pick Jimmy Carter over Ronald Reagan head to head today, even knowing how they'd each govern. For me, somebody getting my vote has to have high morals (as far as I can determine), but beyond that I don't judge the candidates by which one tries to show they are more Godly than the rest. I look at whether I think they'd do the best job in the best interest of the country, while also expecting that many voters will reach a different conclusion than I do on who that is.

50 posted on 01/13/2016 1:08:56 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: RummyChick

This would open a Pandora’s box we’ll never be able to close again.


51 posted on 01/13/2016 4:44:46 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: RummyChick
SO all of these Freepers are siding with that side of SCOTUS. Not Scalia’s side who has indicated he might rule in favor of Jus Soli.

What a nightmare. If anyone had told me conservatives would no longer demand a US birth certificate of their POTUS candidates, I would have laughed them out of the room.

52 posted on 01/13/2016 4:46:31 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Jim 0216

Great post.


53 posted on 01/13/2016 11:21:06 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (vote for Tom Hoefling for President 2016 it's time for a real conservative to be in Whitehouse)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes; kygolfman; Wissa

People need to understand that recovery of the Constitution as the rule of law is ESSENTIAL to make our country better in the long-term as to the federal government. To recover their political and economic freedom from an increasingly despotic and totalitarian federal government, the American People MUST recover their only legal bulwark of freedom against federal tyranny: the U.S. Constitution as written and originally understood and intended. The people must once again establish the Rule of Law, the key to political freedom, by reinstating the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land and the Ruler over the federal government.

To do this, the average American must familiarize himself with the Constitution and understand how it mainly limits the federal government. Below is a rough outline of the possible order of things in approaching the Constitution in a way the average American could understand.

1) Getting a good grasp of the PRESUMPTIONS of the Constitution helped by reading the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, the Declaration of Independence and certain selected Federalist Papers. The major presumptions are that

a) rights and powers are inherent in individuals and are given by God - among them are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness and are the birth right of every individual and are NOT given by government,

b) the Constitution does NOT grant rights and powers to individuals but the Constitution protects those rights which are God-given

c) the powers of the federal government are CREATED and DELEGATED by individuals through the states via the Constitution by which the feds themselves are both created and LIMITED.

d) if it is not a specific, enumerated power, it is not a power of the federal government whereas the opposite is true with the states and individuals. The states and the people are presumed SOVEREIGN outside of Constitutional mandates and limitations.

2) Understanding the basic STRUCTURAL doctrines in the Constitution by reading resources with solid Constitutional-based reasoning like Robert Bork’s works. The Constitution creates the federal government and is its ONLY source of legitimate power and authority. The major structure of the feds is the three branches and the separation of powers between the branches with its checks & balances of power among the branches.

Article I creates the legislative branch, Article II creates the executive branch, Article III the judicial branch, Article IV puts certain limitations on the states, Article V outlines how to amend the Constitution, and Article VI declares the Constitution and ONLY those U.S. laws PURSUANT to the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land.

3) Once you’ve got a hold of that, you can READ THE TEXT of the Constitution with a basic understanding.

4) Post-1900 SCOTUS decisions are generally problematic although the pre-1900 decisions are better and more helpful in accurately interpreting constitutional phrases. There are very few good resources that critically analyze SCOTUS decisions based on sound constitutional understanding, and Bork’s books are one of those rare resources.

There is a strong argument that society has granted SCOTUS powers much greater power than what the ratifiers contemplated. Nowhere does the Constitution give SCOTUS solitary power to create uncontroverted universal law from the bench. SCOTUS is the branch that applies the Constitution to INDIVIDUAL CASES and CONTROVERSIES (Art III, Sec 2). Thus SCOTUS decisions, if soundly based on the Constitution, are valid but limited to precedent for like cases, thus creating a kind of constitutional common law. A SCOTUS decision that is deemed unconstitutional should be ignored and nullified by the states and the other federal branches, but not without sound Constitution-based explanation and reasons for such nullification.

5) Bork’s writings also help in understanding modern PERVERTED PRESUMPTIONS that depart from the Constitutional as written and originally understood and intended. Such perversions are generally those Congressional acts and SCOTUS decisions over the last 100 years or so that have given the feds sweeping, authoritative, and actually totalitarian powers with little to no constitutional reasoning or basis for doing so. The big three perversions are

a) “The Incorporation Doctrine” - judicial misapplication of the 14th Amendment giving the feds sweeping powers not contemplated by the ratifiers of the amendment.

b) The [Interstate] “Commerce Clause” (Art I, Sec 8, Cl 3) astonishingly been expanded by Congress and ratified by SCOTUS to give the feds almost unlimited power over intrastate and local economic activities again, not contemplated by the ratifiers of the Constitution.

c) The “Necessary and Proper Clause” (Art I, Sec 8, Cl 18), originally intended to allow executive enforcement and regulation pursuant to legislation within the scope of the Constitution, the N&P Clause has been expanded beyond constitutional grounds and limits to such an extent that a quasi-fourth branch of government has been created: the Administrative State with behemoth unconstitutional bureaucracies.

This is an action plan to begin the recovery of political freedom in America. The first step is the American People becoming familiar with and owning THEIR Constitution as written and originally understood and intended as outline above, which is the key to THEIR political freedom. The next step is the citizenry moving intelligently and boldly to choose, elect, and hold accountable representatives at the state level to enforce constitutional state sovereignty and nullify unconstitutional federal acts, which by definition are acts of tyranny, and at the federal level to cut government to its constitutional size. Armed with this knowledge and resulting boldness, the American People could begin to recover their freedoms and their Constitution that protects them.

And one more thing. When confronting a federal agent about a federal act, you only need to ask them one question: “Is it Constitutional?” Then if you feel like it, you can add, “Well is it, Punk?”


54 posted on 01/14/2016 7:32:18 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
Everything is your post is wishful thinking at best and complete delusion at worst. I assume it's simply an exercise in "what if" debate.

A scholarly discussion of the Constitution will never, ever happen in a political campaign.
A scholarly discussion of the Constitution is not a campaign strategy. Any candidate that tried to do anything of the sort would be laughed off the stage.

You must understand this.

55 posted on 01/14/2016 9:57:17 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Read closely. Not one word about “political campaign.”

The Constitution is important only if you recognize that the greatest threat to our freedoms and way of life is the $4 trillion mostly unconstitutional and, therefore, tyrannical federal government.

It’s about the American People retaking ownership of THEIR freedom and THEIR Constitution.


56 posted on 01/14/2016 11:59:30 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
OK, you're right. If every American became involved and educated on the Constitution, that would solve all our problems.

Why hasn't anybody else thought of this? You should contact the Republican and Democrat parties and tell them that what they're both doing is wrong and that they should start honoring the Constitution.

That's the solution! Let's start spreading the word! Everybody! Read the Constitution!

After that, we should get rid of world hunger, all diseases, and evil.

57 posted on 01/14/2016 12:29:53 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Why would the GOP and Dems want to start honoring the Constitution? It’s aimed right at limiting their power and prestige? And the Constitution was written precisely to LIMIT the feds from attempting despotic status in the name of things like getting “rid of world hunger, all diseases and evil.”

The Constitution does ONE thing: LIMITS the feds.

Many like you don’t realize that much of the stuff you take for granted is at risk at the hand of the ever increasing despotic power of the feds. Apparently that doesn’t bother you and freedom doesn’t really matter to you and people like you which is why the feds have gone as far as they have.

Well freedom matters to a lot of people. It is the core of our American way of life.

Of course anyone with half a brain knows in a political campaign you would focus on the RESULTS of cutting unconstitutional government: LOW, FLAT TAX (which you claim to care about), freedom from stifling regulations, letting states and the people of their states run their own show resulting in greater economic prosperity and opportunity to the average American.


58 posted on 01/14/2016 1:05:26 PM PST by Jim W N
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