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In his own words: Ted Cruz on his U.S. citizenship
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 1/8/16 | Byron York

Posted on 01/12/2016 8:00:15 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra

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To: Cboldt

Only if you are a Democrat.


61 posted on 01/12/2016 9:01:03 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Girlene

See post #60.


62 posted on 01/12/2016 9:01:04 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: unlearner
-- The power to confer citizenship is Constitutionally the jurisdiction of Congress --

I see what you did there! But fact of the matter is, the power to NATURALIZE is the jurisdiction of Congress.

And if Congress doesn't naturalize anybody, the constitution tells us who are citizens, and who are not.

63 posted on 01/12/2016 9:01:24 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: DMZFrank
4th allegiance, he was also a Commonwealth Citizen with the UK via being born in Canada.

Dunno why people say, magic I'm a US citizen because of one US parent, when of course there are conditions that have to be met on US citizenship.

64 posted on 01/12/2016 9:01:39 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: FreeReign

If the 1790 Act established anything it’s that the foreign-born children of citizens require naturalization.

To satisfy the political desires of some they demand that acts repealed centuries ago be used - and even that is not enough. That act must be carefully edited removing the singular citizenship of the parents.

The act in force at the time of birth controls. Dismembering a repealed naturalization act and carefully selecting phrases from the entrails is not law.

In 1970 the controlling act is the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952 which provided that citizenship may be conferred upon the foreign-born children of citizens provided both the citizen parent and the child fulfilled the requirements of the statute.

The statute says “citizen”. Are words to be inserted into statute, thwarting the will of Congress?


65 posted on 01/12/2016 9:02:52 AM PST by Ray76
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To: TBBT
Current law: Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401]

Just to be technical, current law is not the law that applies. It is the law at the time of birth. Section (g) was different at the time of Cruz's birth, but he still inherited citizenship under that section ( unlike Obama )

66 posted on 01/12/2016 9:03:17 AM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Okay, now then: Have you actually read or listened to anything Rafael Cruz has said?

No, I haven't. I assume you have. What has he said about his love for America? I know he didn't choose to become an American citizen until just a few years ago.

67 posted on 01/12/2016 9:03:39 AM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: TBBT

“by birth” is not the same as “by statute”


68 posted on 01/12/2016 9:03:47 AM PST by Ray76
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To: SubMareener
You want to make the argument before the SC that only a father and not a mother can confer NBC.

That problem, my friend, is with the current makeup of the Supreme Court, not the Constitution. I used to think that Ted Cruz on the Supreme Court would help correct that, but now he is revealed as thinking the Constitution is alive, at least when the issue affects his desires.

My friend, it's not a problem that both a father and a mother are treated the same before the SC. And Ted cruz doesn't think the Constitution is "alive".

69 posted on 01/12/2016 9:04:31 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: TBBT
that being a citizen by birth is the equivalent of the Constitution's "natural born citizen."

No, a natural born citizens IS necessarily a citizen of the United States, but a citizen of the United States is NOT necessarily a natural born citizen.

In simpler terms, if they 'meant the same thing', the Founders wouldn't have changed it.

70 posted on 01/12/2016 9:06:50 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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To: usafa92
And while Ted is at it, he can produce his Consular Record of Birth which would be the legal mechanism for proving his citizenship status. My guess is that he doesn’t have it otherwise he’d produce it.

How about a US Passport?

71 posted on 01/12/2016 9:11:46 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: unlearner
The power to confer citizenship is Constitutionally the jurisdiction of Congress.

The power is to make a 'uniform rule of naturalization', so the only type of citizenship they CAN confer is naturalized.

72 posted on 01/12/2016 9:13:06 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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To: Ray76
If the 1790 Act established anything it’s that the foreign-born children of citizens require naturalization.

No. Doesn't look like it.

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73 posted on 01/12/2016 9:16:15 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: AFret.; Cboldt

Actually, he’s already stated he has one. But, like Cboldt says, Sen. Cruz has a bit of an eye for the right dramatic moment, and will not reveal it before then.


74 posted on 01/12/2016 9:17:47 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: FreeReign

Notice:

1790 Act: “An Act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization.”

1795 Act: “An Act to establish an uniform rule of Naturalization; and to repeal the act heretofore passed on that subject.”

Both are explicitly stated to be naturalization acts.

Notice too:

For “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States” to acquire citizenship required a naturalization act.


75 posted on 01/12/2016 9:17:59 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Lumper20

I agree and since someone besides Cruz dug up the proof, I have to believe that Cruz was hiding it and that it was virtually impossible for this brilliant legal beagle to be ignorant of the fact.


76 posted on 01/12/2016 9:18:40 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: FreeReign

Look, get a grip on reality! The original Constitution accommodated human slavery in the United States. There was a War and there were Amendments to change that. There have been no Amendments to change or clarify the definition of natural born citizen. So if you actually want to be a Winter Constitutionalist, you have to stay with the original definition which counted citizenship decent through the father only. Otherwise, just admit that you are a Summer Constitutionalist, at least when the old thing gets in the way of something you want.


77 posted on 01/12/2016 9:22:32 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: FreeReign

ok, thanks.


78 posted on 01/12/2016 9:23:13 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Ray76
"And the children of citizens of the United States, that mayibe born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens"

Just because a bill is called a Naturalization Bill doesn't mean that all things in the bill are about naturalization.

The language is clear.

Notice too: For "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States" to acquire citizenship required a naturalization act.

It's not clear if they were simply codifying something that was already accepted to be true.

That kind of thing is done all the time.

79 posted on 01/12/2016 9:23:42 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: sitetest

Actually, he’s already stated he has one. But, like Cboldt says, Sen. Cruz has a bit of an eye for the right dramatic moment, and will not reveal it before then.


It won’t make him NBC, but as the kids say, “whatever”.

( And this guy wants our trust, and our vote).


80 posted on 01/12/2016 9:25:07 AM PST by AFret.
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