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Cruz Citizenship Kerfuffle Is a Distraction
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | January 7, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/07/2016 11:20:55 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: conservativejoy; BuckeyeTexan
where is the issue?

I think the issue is whether or not (both of) Ted's parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth.

21 posted on 01/07/2016 12:41:20 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Calpublican

... to American parents


22 posted on 01/07/2016 12:42:01 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: UCANSEE2

Where in the Constitution or the law does it say that both parents have to be citizens?


23 posted on 01/07/2016 12:43:30 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: conservativejoy

I don’t have an issue with Cruz’s eligibility, if that’s what you’re asking.

If you’re asking why I think this is unsettled law, then I’d refer you to the State Department’s Foreign Affairs policy manual (and the comments by many conservative pundits and scholars) that specifically state that SCOTUS has never ruled definitively on whether or not a statutory citizen-at-birth is a natural-born citizen and eligible to the presidency.


24 posted on 01/07/2016 12:43:41 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Catsrus

What records did he have sealed?


25 posted on 01/07/2016 12:47:31 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: UCANSEE2

Nope. That’s not the issue. Neither the Constitution nor federal statutes require two citizen parents to obtain citizenship at birth.


26 posted on 01/07/2016 12:48:23 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: UCANSEE2

Actually Ted Cruz’s father was in immigrant from Cuba at the time of the birth of Ted Cruz. His mother was a natural born citizen


27 posted on 01/07/2016 12:52:52 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: conservativejoy
I'll answer it.

No where

28 posted on 01/07/2016 12:55:04 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: conservativejoy; cymbeline

Consider these facts:

1957- Rafael Cruz enters the US as a CUBAN Citizen on a student visa.

1961-1962 Rafael Cruz finishes college ,applies for political asylum, and gets a GREEN CARD.

1964-1966 Rafael Cruz takes a few odd jobs, marries, and moves to Canada. He applies for and becomes a CANADIAN CITIZEN and stays for eight years.

1970 Ted Cruz is born in Canada, to two parents who had lived in Canada for at least four years at that time, and had applied for and received Canadian citizenship under Canadian 0mmigration and Naturalization Laws, as stated by Rafael Cruz. As a result, US statutes would have voided the prior green card status which requires among other things, permanent residency within the United States and obviously, not becoming a citizen of another country during the time frame of the green card.

1974 The Cruz family moves to the United States when Ted is approximately four years old. Rafael Cruz has publicly stated that he remained a citizen of Canada until he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he applied for and became a Naturalized citizen in 2005. As a result, his wife and son were also Canadian citizens, his son being born a citizen of Canada in 1970.

2005 Rafael Cruz applies for legal citizenship and renounces his Canadian citizenship. No record of Ted renouncing his Canadian citizenship or applying for citizenship exists as of 2005.


Based on the above, would you conclude that he is a NBC ?


29 posted on 01/07/2016 12:56:15 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

His mother was a US citizen. End of discussion.


30 posted on 01/07/2016 12:57:34 PM PST by Calpublican (A.G. Lynch: The intent of this statement is to incite violence against radical Islam)
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To: conservativejoy
Where in the Constitution or the law does it say that both parents have to be citizens?

Where does it say they don't ? Usually the use of the word "parents" means both. Does it not ? If one wanted to mean only one parent, one would say "a parent" or "one of the parents".

Ted's dad wasn't an American Citizen. Was his mom a US Citizen ?

31 posted on 01/07/2016 1:00:18 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Nope. That’s not the issue. Neither the Constitution nor federal statutes require two citizen parents to obtain citizenship at birth.

OK. Was even ONE of them a US Citizen at the time of Ted's birth ?

32 posted on 01/07/2016 1:01:42 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

They have not issued an opinion; however:
The Supreme Court has long recognized that two particularly useful sources in understanding constitutional terms are British common law3×

Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent.

Used in Smitgh vs Alabama and other cases.


33 posted on 01/07/2016 1:04:12 PM PST by Calpublican (A.G. Lynch: The intent of this statement is to incite violence against radical Islam)
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To: Calpublican
His mother was a US citizen. End of discussion.

Go ahead. Close your mind, shut out the facts.

It doesn't bother me if Ted is an NBC or not. He's an American all the way as far as I can tell.

However, facts matter, and that is what I'm trying to get out into the open.

Ted's father says they moved to Canada and became Canadian citizens. Ted's father says Ted was a Canadian Citizen. Are you saying Ted's father is a liar ?

34 posted on 01/07/2016 1:05:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
If you noticed it says from the link that you posted

Acquisition of U.S. citizenship by birth abroad to a U.S. citizen parent is governed by Federal statutes. Only insofar as Congress has provided in such stat utes, does the United States follow the traditionally Roman law principle of "jus sanguinis" under which citizenship is acquired by descent (see 7 FAM 11

It does not say that both parents have to be US Citizen

35 posted on 01/07/2016 1:06:53 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Calpublican
Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent.

Which one of his parents were a US Citizen at the time of Ted's birth ?

36 posted on 01/07/2016 1:09:22 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Kaslin
His mother was a natural born citizen.

Yes, but at the time of Ted's Birth, was she a US citizen ?

37 posted on 01/07/2016 1:10:50 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Calpublican

That’s Smith vs Alabama

Wisconsin vs Pelican Insurance


38 posted on 01/07/2016 1:11:38 PM PST by Calpublican (A.G. Lynch: The intent of this statement is to incite violence against radical Islam)
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To: UCANSEE2

She was BORN in the US. That is, when her mother gave birth to her through the birth canal they were both at the time within the borders of the United States and in fact in the continental United States.


39 posted on 01/07/2016 1:13:39 PM PST by Calpublican (A.G. Lynch: The intent of this statement is to incite violence against radical Islam)
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To: UCANSEE2

HIS mother gave birth to HIM


40 posted on 01/07/2016 1:14:23 PM PST by Calpublican (A.G. Lynch: The intent of this statement is to incite violence against radical Islam)
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