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Professional Pandering -- Desperate Cruz, Dependent on Iowa, Flip-Flops on Ethanol Subsidies...
Conservative Treehouse ^ | 1/06/2015 | Sundance

Posted on 01/06/2016 5:30:43 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans

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To: parksstp

I agree. It is not well reasoned and reeks of hate.


41 posted on 01/06/2016 5:55:34 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I agree that it has the appearance of pandering, but it is the right answer. Farmers have been pushed by the government in this direction, so they should have time to change.

Also, any other products, methods, or quantities that would make ethanol more competitive should take precedence over any government mandate.


42 posted on 01/06/2016 5:55:48 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jwalsh07
Speaking strictly for myself of course.

I'm glad to see you took my post to heart and are putting it into practice. They say if you reach just one person, that is reward in itself.
43 posted on 01/06/2016 5:56:44 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: JoSixChip

Silly season


44 posted on 01/06/2016 5:56:48 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Norm Lenhart
This was shot to hell 5 min after it ‘broke.

The Cruz sycophants at gay Redstate or loony Rightscoop are still lying to their readers about Cruz's position on immigration. The Hot Air article I also provide here by a Ted Cruz supporter is pretty revealing that nothing has been "shot to hell," except by the usual suspects who wail and gnash their teeth constantly on anything that comes down the pike.

45 posted on 01/06/2016 5:56:56 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Blab away. It was shot to hell 5 min after it broke. Your Hero worship and CDS does not change that.


46 posted on 01/06/2016 5:58:02 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Even Cruz's monkeys at Hot Air are reacting negatively to this.

So just because they are ignorant doesn't mean flip flop. And breaking the blendwall would not be done with subsidies. If you don't need subsidies you should be allowed to negotiate the blendwall with manufacturers. Most of us will go for the cheaper (without subsidies) pure gas.

47 posted on 01/06/2016 5:58:35 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Yeah its just an internet nobody like me but we add up.


48 posted on 01/06/2016 5:59:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: kik5150
In the linked audio from today, Cruz still supports a 5 year phase out

Which is already law, set to phase out in 2022. Look at what Cruz was telling CPAC and other conservative audiences, and how conservative commentators were reporting it: Cruz the "brave" one to call for immediate repeal of Ethanol.

Little did they know, Cruz wasn't telling them the whole story. Though what we can guarantee here is that: Cruz now wants to break the "blendwall" and has shifted positions on ethanol itself entirely, denying he was ever an opponent, despite words to the contrary before.

49 posted on 01/06/2016 6:01:48 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: cripplecreek

Going to be interesting to see if Cruz wins Iowa. The screaming here will be legendary.

All it does is damage conservatism and America to trash a genuine conservative but they obviously don’t care about that.


50 posted on 01/06/2016 6:02:33 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You’re good for personal budgeting. Your posts save a lot of people money on Ipicac.


51 posted on 01/06/2016 6:04:24 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: JoSixChip

I don’t take anything statists say to heart, soul or mind. Just to keep the record straight.


52 posted on 01/06/2016 6:07:49 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Norm Lenhart

They can only act like a liberal for so long before they become liberals and a lot have made the transition without ever knowing it was happening.

Less than a year ago FR was near unanimous in support of citizens united and closed primaries. Now we hear endless raging about the Koch Bros and big donors and whining about voter disenfranchisement by wanting people voting in GOP primaries to be actual republicans.


53 posted on 01/06/2016 6:08:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Starstruck

Lying, slandering, name-calling, whining, caterwauling, misleading... all the usual tactics of the Trumpettes.


54 posted on 01/06/2016 6:08:43 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: cripplecreek

Less than a year ago Ted Cruz was the conservative savior of America and Trump was a clown.

My how times change. CANCERvatism at it’s finest.


55 posted on 01/06/2016 6:11:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Once again, GPH shows up with his shovel, straight from the waste pits behind the feedlot.


56 posted on 01/06/2016 6:17:24 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yeah its kinda funny when you look at Trump threads from 2012 and 2008 you can see who has been solid conservatives and who has utterly collapsed.


57 posted on 01/06/2016 6:18:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Starstruck
Post more damn lies. Cruz has called for a 5 year phase out of subsidies prior to this. There is no flip flop. There is just a bunch of Trumpanzees flinging poop.

That's exactly right.

From Jan 2015:

Cruz, though, opposes what he calls government intervention into the market for energy and has specifically proposed phasing out the RFS over five years. On Friday, he reiterated that position and said he'll maintain it regardless of the political cost in Iowa should he run for president. “I very strongly support corn and farmers and ethanol, but I don’t think Washington should pick winners and losers” Cruz said after a supporter asked him to clarify his stance. “I think what we need to do, instead of having a government mandated subsidy, we ought to do is remove the government barriers so that ethanol can end up having a larger share of the market through competition rather than through government putting mandates in place,” Cruz added.

src:http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2015/01/23/ted-cruz-freedom-summit-preview/22237329/

There it is, right in front of God and everybody, over a year ago in the Des Moines Register. Doesn't look to me like anything has changed at all.

58 posted on 01/06/2016 6:18:22 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The reporter that erroneously reported this has corrected it.


59 posted on 01/06/2016 6:20:07 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: be-baw

The reporter has already retracted the story as false. See post 14 for link.


60 posted on 01/06/2016 6:21:33 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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