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Why aren't we calling the Oregon occupiers 'terrorists'?
The Washington Post ^ | 1-4-16 | Janell Ross

Posted on 01/04/2016 8:47:10 AM PST by Gandalf the Mauve

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To: Newtoidaho

A caller to the Andrew Wilkow show said it’s a sort of visitor information shelter, not even what one would properly call a building, let alone a “Federal Building.”


61 posted on 01/04/2016 10:01:35 AM PST by Tax-chick (Maximizing my cultural appropriation.)
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To: TexasGunLover
"Irrelevant versus Apache's and armored vehicles. "

Is there a Fed agency with Apaches? Apaches with guns and rockets?

Sure, they can put armored vehicles out on that Eastern Oregon tundra but I'm not sure how much good that will do them. And, I don't believe the EPA will allow it:)

62 posted on 01/04/2016 10:03:43 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Gandalf the Mauve

Because they’re a bunch of disgruntled ideologues, like the Black Lives Matter groups or even the union members who have taken over public buildings at various points, and the best thing to do is simply wait them out, or wait until they’ve gotten tired of it all and then simply come in and invite them to leave.

For once, the Feds are handling this correctly - talk to them, let them hang out and get bored, and then let them go. The only thing I think in this case is that, unlike the union members and the BLM folks, these “occupiers” (not terrorists) won’t be allowed to walk away scot free.

So that brings us to a whole different situation. They’ll probably be arrested. I will acknowledge that some BLM and even the unionistas who “occupied” Scott Walker’s capitol bldg. were arrested as well, particularly if they had used weapons or were violent, so it’s not entirely persecution.

This was a stupid thing to do and I don’t think it should turn into a cause celebre.


63 posted on 01/04/2016 10:18:51 AM PST by livius
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To: Gandalf the Mauve

I’m not terrorized by them.


64 posted on 01/04/2016 10:28:49 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Gandalf the Mauve

Terrorists try to create TERROR among the population by intentionally including women, children and other non-combatants in their killing. The only people at risk from these folks are any who attack them.


65 posted on 01/04/2016 10:30:25 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: IMR 4350

I was based at Ft Hood when those tanks of Clark’s suddenly appeared at the compound without him knowing a thing about it. The 1st’s Division Cdr not knowing his newly armored M-1 Abrams tanks had been loaned out to the local FBI and police.

BS


66 posted on 01/04/2016 10:36:16 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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According to the investigator there is a memo/agreement between the WH and Ma Richards arranging to use the Texas National Guard armored personnel carriers for the standoff before the raid took place.

There was also a talking point memo from the WH wanting the spokesman to compare the .50 BMG round to the 9mm round and how the .50 BMG could reach the agents but the agents 9mm couldn’t reach the compound.

Problem is there were no .50 BMG rounds fired and the 9mm would zip right through the compound from where the ATF was when the shooting started.

Another memo which had to be written before the raid indicating there was supposed to be a standoff.

The sniveling ATF agent that was inside the compound right before the raid was supposed to have been taken hostage apparently.

He also told me it was more than likely the ATF are the one’s that started the shooting when they shot some dogs.

The reason for using the tanks, there was a bug inside the compound and they had picked up on the Davidians plan to get as many agents inside the compound as possible then set it on fire.

The Davidians were supposed to get in the buried bus and come out when the fire was out. One of the FBI agents let the fact they knew about the plan for a fire slip out shortly after the fire. Reno also let it slip out they were aware of a so called “suicide pact” before the order was given to end the standoff.

A year or 2 after Waco I recognized one of the ATF agents as one that had me under surveillance in the late 1980s.

IIRC, her name is Barbara Maxwell. Dumb as a bag of hammers.


67 posted on 01/04/2016 11:48:15 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Gandalf the Mauve

Because they is no victim, idiot. No damage. No harm. No foul. Heck, they will probably even clean up their own garbage, unlike your occupiers.


68 posted on 01/04/2016 12:34:05 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Gandalf the Mauve

They are NOT jihadists. Terrorism - the war on terror - is specifically intended to address Islamic terrorism.


69 posted on 01/04/2016 1:28:30 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Gandalf the Mauve
If BLM takes over a college admin building is that terrorism or merely college high jinks? I suspect thet the “terrorists” aren't attacking anyone. This seems to be a case of trespassing.
70 posted on 01/04/2016 4:40:53 PM PST by Captain Compassion
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To: HollyB
"...Successfully battling a wildfire by the use of a back fire is not arson; it is intelligent land management. The Hammond family should have been praised for their quick action, not given excessive prison sentences over it...."

Has ANYONE gone to prison for this dumber than a box of rocks fiasco? Nope.


71 posted on 01/04/2016 10:40:32 PM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: 444Flyer

Seriously 444. It’s all about the land grab.
I’m curious what ever happened to those EPA workers that polluted the river? The EPA has way too much power.


72 posted on 01/05/2016 6:33:33 PM PST by HollyB
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