Neither do I.
Posted on 01/04/2016 8:47:10 AM PST by Gandalf the Mauve
Stupidity like this should hurt. Hurt bad.
Terrorists? Sure. Just after you tell me how many people the Bundy’s have killed.
Unlike the Occupy Wall Street “Children”, nobody has even taken a $#*+ on a police car yet, have they?
Occupy Wall Street
Occupy Madison
Occupy the Dean’s Office
BLM gaathering in the middle of the freeway
Flash Mobs of ‘Utes’ at the Mall
Aye.
Single digits at night, below freezing all day.
And gray.
Not a lot of Feds look forward to this "standoff".
And with at least 2 miles of visibility in all directions it's not hard to see somebody coming.
If there's one thing these militia dudes are known for it's that they can shoot. At distance.
After researching the matter, I don’t support the Bundy’s, but at this point they are not terrorists. More like armed trespassers.
If they use deadly force to resist lawful attempts to remove them, they will become something much worse, but still probably not terrorists.
Hopefully it won’t come to that and the situation will be resolved peacefully.
If they were illegal aliens taking over an empty Fed bldg, the MSM would be tripping over themselves to defend the action.
Terrorists generally try to instill fear by wanton killing and destruction. So the term does not fit.
That said, these guys (who have a legit grievance — the BLM are idiots and I’ve had problems with them on my own (not even BLM land) — I own fee title) land where they trespassed.
Eric Holder did the same thing. What makes him not a terrorist?
Well, they aren’t pedophile rapists like Muslims
Because they’re not. Next question.
They should be breaking into a store that sells suspenders and work boots.
About 50 miles from the nearest next building. If anything they might have startled a few jackrabbits or a couple of coyotes.
so you can then put them on the no fly list.....so then Obama can take their guns
Because they are terrorizing anything.
This is a comment from The Blaze that I thought was interesting:
“SingerGuy -Jan. 4, 2016 at 8:36am
From the article: “Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit the fires on federal land in 2001 and 2006 to reduce the growth of invasive plants and protect their property from wildfires.â€
What that carefully crafted sentence does not say is that the valley was filled with wildfires, and their property was in imminent danger of being burned and their winter feed destroyed. They set backfires on their property, along the border with BLM property, to create a firebreak in hopes of saving their ranch. The backfires worked better than they hoped and were even instrumental in bringing the larger fires under control. However, the fires burned across the fence line and onto BLM land, and the BLM is calling those fires “arson†in an attempt to garner public support and win a decades-old battle to drive the Hammonds off of their ranch.
Successfully battling a wildfire by the use of a back fire is not arson; it is intelligent land management. The Hammond family should have been praised for their quick action, not given excessive prison sentences over it. This whole story is BLM abuse and government media propaganda. This family is being persecuted and prosecuted off of their land.
I don’t support taking over the building the way they have done, but I agree that something needs to be done to draw attention to this story. I’m not sure how successful they can be with the media not telling their side of the story, as in this article.”
Neither do I.
I saw one picture posted over there the text was asking why the National Guard was called out for Ferguson, but not for Oregon (because the Oregon resistors are white).
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OREGON NATIONAL GUARD ACTIVATED OVER MILITIA SEIZURE OF FEDERAL LAND
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/724
Sources tell SuperStation95 the 41st Infantry Brigade of the Oregon National Guard was called up out of Clackamas.
You neglected to mention that they were sentenced to and served a year in prison already, which is the maximum term for arson. The additional 4 year terms were argued for under a 1996 law that applies to terrorism.
There is much more to this story. How did a back burn for fire management turn into arson and then terrorism? Quite a bit of overreach by the government prosecutors there.
nc_writer -Jan. 4, 2016 at 8:54am
They’re not terrorists because they are not employing terrorism tactics, i.e., blowing stuff up, sniping, booby traps, etc.
They are maintaining an armed vigil.
Another FReeper posted the following on a different thread:
Militia members peacefully occupy a vacant government building = Terrorists
Black Lives Matter members riot, assault innocent bystanders and terrorize mall patrons = Activists
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