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Here’s The First Shot Of The F-15C Pod That Will Change How The Air Force Fights
Foxtrot Alpha ^ | December 31, 2015 | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 12/30/2015 8:05:57 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 12/30/2015 8:05:57 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bump


2 posted on 12/30/2015 8:08:10 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Air Force’s Battlefield Airborne Communications Node (BACN),

That acronym, ladies and germs, is no accident and is brilliant.

3 posted on 12/30/2015 8:16:10 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Seems like that does away with about two thirds of the rationale for the F-35 even being built.

JMHo

4 posted on 12/30/2015 8:20:02 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: martin_fierro

“That acronym, ladies and germs, is no accident and is brilliant.”

General Pershing rides again. (Yeah, I know it’s only legend.)


5 posted on 12/30/2015 8:23:47 PM PST by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What is the point of giving away the aerial battle plan?


6 posted on 12/30/2015 8:24:54 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: martin_fierro
Ahmed the dead terrorist says,

7 posted on 12/30/2015 8:28:20 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

You want to impress me with weapons systems, show me how conservatives are taking back the media...


8 posted on 12/30/2015 8:29:34 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Rashputin
Seems like that does away with about two thirds of the rationale for the F-35 even being built.
JMHo


...and somewhat compensates for the reduced numbers of F-22s that are scheduled to be built...

9 posted on 12/30/2015 8:43:29 PM PST by az_gila
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To: Rashputin

Time to dump the F-35 with the exception of the Marine VTOL versions and start buying the much less expensive F-15 Silent Eagle. Proven Airframe and some Stealth Capability.

Expand the F-22 Fleet. I think another few hundred should do the trick.

The Navy should refurbish the old F-14 Tomcats with modern Engines and Avionics and put them back in service. Those and the current F-18 Super Hornets would make for a formidable Carrier based Squadron.

If the Iranians can keep their F-14’s Flying after all these years, WTH are we doing?

Oh yeah, start building more A-10’s or a new version if the original Tooling is gone and get them out of the Air Force Inventory and into the hands of the Army and Marines.

Just my uninformed opinion. I can dream. LOL


10 posted on 12/30/2015 8:47:25 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, unable to call a Spade a Spade...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The F-22 does not have Link 16 transmission capability like most other combat aircraft because that system was not designed for stealthy aircraft and its omni-direction emissions could give away the F-22's presence. As such, the F-22 can currently receive information via Link 16 compatible broadcasts, but it cannot send them. ................ Talon HATE pod will basically masquerade as another F-22, with Raptors beaming back information to it

Just me, or does my after dinner reading comprehension detect a small contradiction in this? Probably missed the small print somewhere.

11 posted on 12/30/2015 8:49:14 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A US fighter aircraft has to carry that colostomy bag just to communicate? This is ridiculous.


12 posted on 12/30/2015 8:52:26 PM PST by Royal Wulff
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To: sukhoi-30mki
What is a bit sad is that just now the US is starting to get IRST capabilities in front line fighters, where the Russians have had it in some form for quite a while.

I believe the F-14 had some sort, do not know how capable it was.

Total anecdote:

Something that blew me away reading about the ancient F-4 Phantom, was the little scrotum/bulge hanging under the radome pointing forward. Apparently that was to have had an early IR sensor of some sort, but it never matured in time to be installed. Dimly recall looking into a F-4 radome when swung back and not seeing anything in that space. Always wondered why it was there.

13 posted on 12/30/2015 9:13:48 PM PST by doorgunner69
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IMHO, totally scrap the F35, enough of good money after bad. Start with a clean slate and do a plane for the USMC and/or make an version of the A10 strengthened for carrier landing, with foldingm wings, and a tad more powerful engines. The money they save would put a bit of an angled deck and a jump ramp on every ship dedicated to USMC use if that's what it takes to get out of the VTOL takeoff rut. Seems to me STOL does 99% of that job without nearly the same penalty.

Even if no modified A10 is in the mix, you could do a LOT better than the F35 for a USMC specific aircraft.

Then again, I'm just an old grunt who appreciates napalm tumbling off of a well weathered Skyraider so maybe I just have a soft spot for low, slow, and dead accurate automatic weapons fire.

The Air Force and Navy seem to be sobering up a bit and realizing they're far from the end of the life cycle for both the F15 and the F18. No matter how hard you stare at the horizon, the "fifth generation" (marketing buzz as far as I'm concerned) isn't out there on the horizon to any great degree.

SAMs and drones are getting more capable every day and betting the whole farm on any one thing right now doesn't seem like a wise course of action. I can see drones used as semi-autonomous escorts for manned aircraft becoming an important element of our strategy at some point but right now everything is caught up in the same ole "more expensive is better" syndrome.

There's a lot that can be accomplished by refining the existing types of aircraft and a lot to be learned by doing so.

JMHo

14 posted on 12/30/2015 9:30:36 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: doorgunner69

All the US Tomcats had a tv camera system. The D model had a double chin pod with an IRST. With the use of more advanced cameras I am sure this pod and the corresponding IRST for the Hornet should be pretty capable.


15 posted on 12/30/2015 9:44:01 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Lotta drag. How many a/c on a mission have to carry one?


16 posted on 12/30/2015 10:02:13 PM PST by The All Knowing All Seeing Oz (Explaining Obama is very simple: He plays for the other team in every way possible.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

And one woggie with an ‘03 Springfield sitting in a window 1000 meters from the parked a/c on the airstrip puts a hole in it?

I love tech, but is this what we need now?

Just askin.


17 posted on 12/30/2015 10:04:41 PM PST by The All Knowing All Seeing Oz (Explaining Obama is very simple: He plays for the other team in every way possible.)
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To: Rashputin
There's a lot that can be accomplished by refining the existing types of aircraft and a lot to be learned by doing so.

Nowadays, the military must be prepared to fight two totally different wars: one against a sophisticated, well-equipped enemy like Russia or China and another versus the Islamic hordes.

For the latter purpose, the A-10 -- or even that "well-weathered Skyraider" -- makes a lot of sense. Fact is, Corsairs escorting Skyraiders could do a lot of damage...at very little cost.

18 posted on 12/30/2015 10:10:06 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Royal Wulff

A US fighter aircraft has to carry that colostomy bag just to communicate? This is ridiculous.

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It’s a big sucker, but I’d say its advantages outweigh its disadvantages. Fighting as a large coordinated system is what gives us superiority over our potential enemies.


19 posted on 12/30/2015 10:17:41 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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That bigass thing and it’s not even a weapon? Something that size should at least be an air-to-air laser...


20 posted on 12/30/2015 10:22:35 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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