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A real-life horror story: You are a felon and you didn't even know it
Fox News.com ^ | December 29, 2015 | Greg Glod

Posted on 12/30/2015 5:41:36 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

And what happened to the EPA officials who poisoned an entire river? Oh, look. The EPA has found the EPA is not responsible for poisoning the river. Surprise, surprise.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/21/epa-now-says-theyre-not-to-blame-for-gold-king-mine-spill/


21 posted on 12/30/2015 5:58:31 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Kaslin

If anybody is interested...here’s the legal stuff...

http://www.wlf.org/litigating/case_detail.asp?id=584


22 posted on 12/30/2015 5:58:43 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Kaslin

I am reluctantly a HAZWOPER. Requires massive amounts of detail and updating. Dealing with no less than 6 government agencies that often have conflicting regulations. I pay a consulting company to insure that we stay in compliance. That said the first thing they tell you in HAZWOPER training is that the shipper is ultimately responsible.


23 posted on 12/30/2015 5:58:49 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Kaslin

Question: Do I fear the Ferals more than I fear the Federals?.
Answer: NO!


24 posted on 12/30/2015 6:01:00 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: Kaslin
"The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."

Ayn Rand

25 posted on 12/30/2015 6:03:35 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Democratic-Republican; Travis McGee
Once they got away with Waco without a single scalp nothing should surprise us.

I would also add the line from Matt Bracken:

"We could both be facing prison time just for talking like this."

"Not as long as we're in power. You know how I know? Operation Fast and Furious. At least four hundred dead and there was no blowback that we couldn't handle. Our media stuck right with us all the way through. For me, that was the final test. We can do almost anything if we get the timing right, and most of the media stays with us."

26 posted on 12/30/2015 6:06:36 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: BBB333
“Krister sold raw sodium...”

Raise your hand if you have ever seen sodium?

It’s not salt!

It’s an extremely dangerous metal.

Drop a pea sized piece of sodium in a glass of water and BANG! A very high intensity fire breaks out - in the glass of water.

So what exactly is your point?

It appears you think the man deserves to be in prison because he sold something that is potentially dangerous, even though it's perfectly legal to do so. It’s extremely dangerous stuff!

27 posted on 12/30/2015 6:07:46 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Kaslin
Krister sold raw sodium....

To whom and for what purpose?

28 posted on 12/30/2015 6:13:21 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Alberta's Child
I'd like to see the details of this story, since I suspect something important has been left out.

Me, too. Horrible reporting, it leaves the reader with more questions than answers. So, did UPS actually ship the sodium by air? Under what construct did the fed's claim he 'abandoned' the stuff?

29 posted on 12/30/2015 6:14:01 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity (Democrat Drinking Game - Every time they mention a new social program, chug someone else's beer.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Reading comprehension is not your strong point is it? The article clearly states that he was found not guilty at his first trial. Then the Feds went after him for something else.


30 posted on 12/30/2015 6:19:38 AM PST by sport
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To: Kaslin

So why hasn’t every Congress-critter spent 2 years in federal prison? If they’ve criminalized everything the way to get them to quit is to make them taste their own medicine. That’s the ONLY way we’ll ever get good governance out of any of them.


31 posted on 12/30/2015 6:20:38 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Democratic-Republican
Once they got away with Waco without a single scalp nothing should surprise us.

And the destruction of Dennis Weaver's family at Ruby Ridge before that under all the 'kinder gentler' bullshit fed to us by Poppy RINO-Bush.
32 posted on 12/30/2015 6:22:03 AM PST by mkjessup (JimRob: "It's Trump or Cruz, all the others are amnesty pimps" And the man is RIGHT!)
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To: BBB333

There are countless dangerous chemicals that have legitimate uses.
How would you ever clean your drains without lye?
Most plastics are safe to have and use, but the materials needed to make them are very dangerous.
Twenty-five or more years ago there was a convicted criminal in a prison cell who wanted to commit suicide, he made an IED from playing cards and successfully offed himself.


33 posted on 12/30/2015 6:23:26 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Slavery will continue to exist and thrive as long a Islam continues to exist.)
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To: BBB333

There are countless dangerous chemicals that have legitimate uses.
How would you ever clean your drains without lye?
Most plastics are safe to have and use, but the materials needed to make them are very dangerous.
Twenty-five or more years ago there was a convicted criminal in a prison cell who wanted to commit suicide, he made an IED from playing cards and successfully offed himself.


34 posted on 12/30/2015 6:24:23 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Slavery will continue to exist and thrive as long a Islam continues to exist.)
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To: sport
Then the Feds went after him for something else.

And he was found guilty in the second trial. What did I miss here?

35 posted on 12/30/2015 6:25:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Some info from a Jan 3, 2014 document by the Washington Legal Foundation (WLF):

“The evidence indicates that the chemicals were not abandoned “waste” at all but rather were valuable materials that Evertson planned to use in his manufacturing business. To obtain a conviction under RCRA, prosecutors had to show that the defendant abandoned the hazardous chemicals. If allowed to testify, Evertson would have explained that he safely stored the chemicals and left Idaho to earn money needed to restart his business, but he always intended to return and put his temporarily-stored materials to good use. However, his defense attorneys did not permit him to testify, and the jury convicted him without ever hearing him explain this.

Evertson seeks to overturn his conviction on the ground that he was denied effective assistance of counsel, in violation of his Sixth Amendment rights. WLF’s petition noted that the final decision whether a defendant should take the witness stand belongs to the defendant, and defense counsel acts unethically in overruling a client’s decision to testify. WLF argued that his lawyers’ decision deprived Evertson of the ability to respond to prosecutors’ claims that he abandoned his chemicals. The Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals held that Evertson waived his right to testify when he failed to stand up in open court to challenge his counsel’s statement that the defense would rest without calling additional witnesses. That waiver rule conflicts with decisions from five other appeals courts, and WLF asked the Supreme Court to review and resolve the conflict. “


36 posted on 12/30/2015 6:28:06 AM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Old Sarge

I carry that quote in my wallet.


37 posted on 12/30/2015 6:28:12 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Alberta's Child

The article doesn’t explain. I googled Krister Evertson and read up more about him.

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&safe=off&site=&source=hp&q=Krister+Evertson+&oq=Krister+Evertson+&gs_l=hp.3..0i22i30l4.3611.3611.0.6956.3.3.0.0.0.0.78.207.3.3.0....0...1c..64.hp..2.1.74.0.BkKkXon09II


38 posted on 12/30/2015 6:30:57 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: tacticalogic

“So what exactly is your point?”

Most people have never seen sodium. I merely am explaining what it is.


39 posted on 12/30/2015 6:31:48 AM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: Kaslin

Not enough inmates? Create more laws for people to break.
Job security for federal officials. Job security for for-profit prisons.
They must maintain a steady flow of criminals. If not, then just create more laws or ‘administrative’ as they said... voila... former law abiding citizens are now inmates and the expensive cots in the for-profit prison now have a ‘customer’.


40 posted on 12/30/2015 6:32:02 AM PST by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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