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How to Ban Guns: A step by step, long term process [The Bloody obvious stated in gun grabber plan]
12/24/2015 | Vanity of sorts

Posted on 12/24/2015 8:55:25 AM PST by Torcert

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To: Vic S

Where are the hackers when you need them? A good one would put their damn websites down and “dead” forever. Just because I previously MAY have registered a firearm does not mean I still have that particular item or any others. A federal website needs to be destroyed as well. It is our right to keep and bare arms and unless the asshats destroy our constitution, that right will remain. Didn’t shakespeare say “kill all the politicians”? NO, wait, that was all the lawyers. Phew, almost made a mistake.


21 posted on 12/24/2015 9:41:21 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Alberta's Child

I’m theorizing that this is why they are losing their ‘collective’ minds over the issue and forgetting the steps outlined in that piece and calling for direct confiscation.

People are certainly NOT going to register their guns if only later to Confiscated.

On top of this we have the increasing threat from Islamic Violence (yes, I said it out loud - that makes much more sense than calling it inanimate object violence)

It should be clear that the national socialist don’t care about the people’s security - and it’s almost like they want to make it safer for jihad..


22 posted on 12/24/2015 9:41:49 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: Iron Munro

Yes, like socialists of the past, they can’t very well oppress the people and take their property if they don’t have a monopoly on the use of force.


23 posted on 12/24/2015 9:43:18 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: Iron Munro

I think it was Randy Weaver ...


24 posted on 12/24/2015 9:43:36 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Torcert

Nothing more than a totalitarian’s wet dream. If the shooting starts, it is only fitting that the people advocating gun control be its first victims.


25 posted on 12/24/2015 9:45:53 AM PST by IronJack
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People are certainly NOT going to register their guns if only later to Confiscated.

Massive non-compliance with CT and NY's recent set of gun registration laws (NY tired to hide its non-compliance numbers and they were only released via court order) shows that the first step in this simply isn't going to happen. Its a Leftard fantasy.

The follow-on steps of finding the guns through other means and then using law enforcement to go after them are even more of a Leftard fantasy. How many gun store owners will just burn their records? How many local and state police will politely "decline" to go after civilly disobedient but otherwise law-abiding gun owners? In fact, throwing local, state and Federal law enforcement together in a concerted effort where ALL officers decide to take part STILL doesn't provide a FRACTION of the manpower necessary to effect these plans in a nation of 120 million gun owners and close to 400 million guns.

So then what? Call up the National Guard? Suspend Posse Commitatus and employ the active-duty military? Yeah, just watch what happens then - the results the Leftards get will most likely NOT be what they were looking for.
26 posted on 12/24/2015 9:54:11 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Thank you for posting that.

I’m amazed that the gun grabbers still lie about their true intentions.


27 posted on 12/24/2015 9:57:16 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: Iron Munro

The point the author was making was that they wanted to sucker people into registering their guns with the promise that it wouldn’t lead to confiscation - which ultimately what they are calling for.


28 posted on 12/24/2015 10:00:00 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: tanknetter

It’s worth noting that mandatory gun registration didn’t even work in a leftist country with a culturally passive mindset like Canada. Their national gun registry was such a failure that it eventually became a joke and was abandoned.


29 posted on 12/24/2015 10:00:45 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: 2nd Amendment

People need to point out the myriad times the left has called for confiscation over the past few years in response to the gun control psuh.


30 posted on 12/24/2015 10:07:05 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: Torcert

“Clearly gun control does not work.... Just like Socialism”

You are so wrong. Gun control AND socialism are extremely effective... to bring about a totalitarian state, the real objective.


31 posted on 12/24/2015 10:17:56 AM PST by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: Torcert

Pretty close.

The way to really turn the screws is to simply make it MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE (in more ways than one) to own guns and profitable to get rid of them. Here are a few steps in that direction:

1) Locks to prevent kids from using them
2) Separate ammo from weapons, and store it locked up also
3) Gun safes that cost maybe $500, or more
4) Insurance (as stated in the article)
5) Ending the Castle Doctrine and again exposing owners to liability if they use their guns in self-defense
6) Madatory licensing of gun owners, along with required range time on a regular basis
7) Expanding the list of what qualifies as a ban on ownership
8) Show trials for a handful of people for ‘technical violations’ of the new laws (such as not making it to range in 7 months, given a 6 month requirement). Then making sure that the person is JAILED for some amount of time, with their prior life TOTALLY RUINED because of their ‘violation’.
9) Require ‘Smart Gun’ technology. Require tracking of ammo. Prohibit ownership of untraceable ammo after a certain grace period.

Bottom line of the above is to convince people that gun ownership is simply NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE.

Then the CARROTS. Pay owners a sizable amount of money (maybe $300-$500 for a handgun) to turn-in their weapons if they agree to never own a gun again. Make it worth their while.

The numbers of owners then decline, and along with that, the political strength of gun owners.

Then GO FOR THE KILL, which is to prohibit private ownership unless an immediate need can be PROVEN. Then it’s game over for gun owners.

That’s the complete plan - and as it progresses (and the number of gun owners decline) it gets HARDER AND HARDER to stop it. That’s why gun owners sometimes seem ‘unreasonable’ when they oppose so-called ‘common-sense gun control’.


32 posted on 12/24/2015 10:23:29 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: dainbramaged

Yep. Fang said they may kill him; but he fully intends to
take several of them with him when he goes. Or as Heston
said, “FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!!”


33 posted on 12/24/2015 10:26:18 AM PST by Twinkie (Kneel at the cross, Jesus (Yeshua) will meet you there.)
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To: unlearner

I stand corrected - yes the organized evil of Socialism is extremely effective in bringing about suppression of the people and setting up the elite in luxury and unlimited power.


34 posted on 12/24/2015 10:42:18 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: BobL

Yes, the left has made it clear they will do ‘whatever it takes’ to deprive people of their natural and civil rights.. and they have no problem with outright lying about it in the furtherance of their goals.


35 posted on 12/24/2015 10:44:59 AM PST by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)
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To: baddog 219

And then they will do the same to the population...


36 posted on 12/24/2015 10:54:59 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: Torcert

Stop them bump


37 posted on 12/24/2015 11:12:04 AM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: Torcert
Thanks for this.

Evil are those who would deprive their fellow humans of the means of self-defense. - frog in a pot 2015

38 posted on 12/24/2015 11:21:45 AM PST by frog in a pot (What if only a previous Democrat says most of the things we want to hear from the Republicans?)
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To: Torcert
The point the author was making was that they wanted to sucker people into registering their guns with the promise that it wouldn’t lead to confiscation

Worked like a charm for Hitler. Of course, the German people were inclined to be unquestioning in such matters. Most Americans would not be so cheerfully obedient to the government's orders.

39 posted on 12/24/2015 11:37:29 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: BobL

However most states (with exception of a few notables) are easing restrictions and local law enforcement, especially county sheriffs, are openly requesting concealed carry permit holders to carry and openly stating they will ignore any federal firearm legislation that they deem unconstitutional. Between this and the spike in firearm sales during Obama’s presidency, they have created quite the conundrum.


40 posted on 12/24/2015 12:05:11 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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