Climate change shock: Burning fossil fuels 'COOLS planet', says NASA

Express UK ^ | Dec 21, 2015 | Jon Austin

[Paladin2]

Trees are renewable, solar powered carbon sequestration units. Obviously more Erf friendly than solar panels.

[Paladin2]

The climate HS is Mann made.

[Yo-Yo]

The sun is going through a periodic dormant cycle, the low point being around 2030.

OK, just stop it. Stop it right now. Everybody knows the Sun has a constant, never wavering output. All of the climate models say so.

[ratzoe]

Global Cooling?

It was all the rage in the 70s, it was due for a comeback.

[jpsb]

"OK, just stop it. Stop it right now. Everybody knows the Sun has a constant, never wavering output. All of the climate models say so. "

Years ago when this AGW stuff first came up I took a serious look at it. In my investigation I determined that the model treat the out put from the Sun as a constant. I stopped my investigation right there and determined the models were BS. While visible light does not vary by much ultraviolet varies greatly and so does Solar winds both of which (IMHO) effect climate.

[Red Badger]

Thus Climate Change.................

[Ben Ficklin]

You are correct.

If you read down aways, you find the key sentence: "Take sulfate aerosols, which are created from burning fossil fuels and contribute to atmospheric cooling"

This was recognized in the 1970s and global cooling became the hot topic.

The result was regulating sulfur in coal and gasoline. Congress eventually(1990) amended the Clean Air Act and now we burn low sulfur coal and remove sulfur from gasoline.

The new Tier 3 gasoline with even less sulfur will be implemented in 2017.

A coal fired power plant is allowed to emit 100 tons of sulfur per year before the regulatory threshold is reached, but if you use natural gas or wind/solar, no sulfur is emitted.

[isthisnickcool]

OK, we make a REALLY big umbrella and shoot it up in to space and put it between Earth and the Sun.....

[GreyFriar]

I guess the Martians burned up all their trees and thus caused the planet to cool to its current state?

[Brooklyn Attitude]

“If you read down aways, you find the key sentence: “Take sulfate aerosols, which are created from burning fossil fuels and contribute to atmospheric cooling””

They were also supposed to acidify lakes in the northeast. According to “predictions” they were all going to be dead 30 years ago.

[Ben Ficklin]

Acid rain was also part of that problem. Pollution drift can be a problem with sulfur, mercury, etc so the Ohio valley was polluting the north east. This goes on today elsewhere with the cross state pollution regs, which were upheld by SCOTUS earlier this year.

When congress amended the Clean Air Act for sulfur, they also included mercury, arsenic, and other metals, but EPA has not been able to bring them under national control. But numerous states now regulate them

[biff]

You got it. Remember, the all encompassing word is ‘change’, and it is your fault.

PS - A friend of min lives in NY, north of the city, and he said the locals are kinda enjoying a little climate change right now.

[peeps36]

Here comes the big switcheroo.

[ontap]

Never under estimate liberal bureaucrats ability to justify ceasing your money!!! It's never about what they claim...it is always about financing their communist ways!!!

[ThePatriotsFlag]

Don't be surprised if he sues.

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Gated community. Strict rules. He followed the rules to get the solar panels, which have always been disallowed in the community. Made sure he told us he did get permission. I went to the land development committee...showed pic of my dead palm tree and asked to replace it with a maple. They signed my change and I have the paperwork. I love to point the system back at the system. :-)

[tbw2]

The solutions of limiting consumption, movement, communication and population haven’t changed from the Global Cooling/Impending Ice Age scare to the Global Warming/Climate Change one.

[Vic S]

The climate HS is Mann made

Oops, you're right. Jones was another 'scientist' at University of East Anglia.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

The sun is going through a periodic dormant cycle...

Well, I wouldn't say dormant. The Sun is still quite active. Let us just say it is a cycle of reduced CME and sunspot activity.

[Paladin2]

Jones is an idiot, Mann is just evil.

[zot]

Sooner or later, the ice ages return. I’m not looking forward to it.