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Trey Gowdy Twists Natural Born Citizen Qualification to Support Marco Rubio
Freedom Outpost ^ | 12/19/2015 | Tim Brown

Posted on 12/21/2015 6:04:59 AM PST by HomerBohn

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To: HomerBohn
that doesn't make him a natural born citizen, according to the Constitution

The Constitution does not define the term.

You can't bootstrap blood from a stone.

21 posted on 12/21/2015 6:55:40 AM PST by wideawake
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To: HomerBohn

Not long ago, Gowdy was the darling of FR, not so much now?


22 posted on 12/21/2015 6:59:45 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: HomerBohn

This entire article is BS, and the issue was settled long ago.

There are two types of citizens; natural, i.e. natural born citizens by law at the moment of birth, and naturalized, i.e.. those made as if natural later by application for citizenship and operation of law.

It has little to do with where they were physically born. For example, people born in CONUS to parents who both held diplomatic immunity representing a foreign power at the moment of the child’s birth are not citizens, even through they were born here.

The law is very simple. Cruz, Rubio, Romeny, McCain and others, were by operation of law, citizens at the moment of their birth, and are therefore entitled to be POTUS.

This article is perfect proof that too many people are ready to listen to anyone with a computer and a website.


23 posted on 12/21/2015 7:04:24 AM PST by The All Knowing All Seeing Oz (Explaining Obama is very simple: He plays for the other team in every way possible.)
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To: odawg

Agreed.


24 posted on 12/21/2015 7:11:00 AM PST by JayGalt
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To: HomerBohn

Well, duh. This guy’s been a political do-nothing whore all along.


25 posted on 12/21/2015 7:11:27 AM PST by Politicalkiddo ("How many observe Christ's birthday! How few, his precepts!"- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: wideawake
The Constitution doesn't define the word “is”, either.

Fundamentally, the **only** thing that makes the Constitution work is the **honest** good will of the citizens. No number of constitutions, laws, or definitions will corral evil. Evil will leak through every time.

So!....If citizens choose to ignore the original intent of the Founders of our nation, don't be surprised when evil comes jack booting its way through your door.

26 posted on 12/21/2015 7:13:52 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: thackney

That is not my understanding of the case law although the media would like to make it so. There was clearly in the mind of the people who wrote the constitution and it had to do with the allegiance of the Father at the time of birth.

Just as allowing right of way develops by not posting your property and allowing people free access the more we allow the muddying of the definition of natural born citizen the less the distinctions will mean.


27 posted on 12/21/2015 7:15:16 AM PST by JayGalt
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To: odawg

Rubio is an example of America. His parents came here for a better life. He went from nothing to become a Senator. A crappy amnesty supporting senator but a senator.


28 posted on 12/21/2015 7:16:35 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cowboyway
Gowdy is a whatever's best for "The Party" man.

Kinda like a "Company" man, except more corrupt and richer.

29 posted on 12/21/2015 7:17:00 AM PST by OKSooner (Amendment 25...)
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To: Politicalkiddo

Well, duh. This guy’s been a political do-nothing whore all along.


I like to call GOPers like Gowdy porch conservatives. They sit on the GOPe plantation and play “conservative” for us rubes back on Main Street.

Then behind our backs they stuff their pockets with corporate cash & follow K Street all the way. Gowdy has been weak on amnesty and Obama’s TPA. Naturally those votes align with the wishes of his Big Sugar and Big Religion donors.

Gowdy is all hat and no cattle. NO doubt.


30 posted on 12/21/2015 7:18:47 AM PST by lodi90
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To: HomerBohn

In the past few weeks, I’ve read on FR that the following are RINOs:

Rush Limbaugh
Mark Levin
Trey Gowdy

Bizarre.


31 posted on 12/21/2015 7:19:42 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: HomerBohn

I will say it again..and again..and again...

Trey Gowdy,

Listen to the oral argument before SCOTUS in the Nguyen case.

It is clear that SCOTUS do not agree on the definition and it is NOT settled law.

Not surprisingly, Ginsburg believes in jus sanguinis. But listen carefully to the discussion.


32 posted on 12/21/2015 7:20:56 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: driftdiver

It seems to me that the Constitution is very clear. Only the President has a requirement for natural born citizen. The Founding Fathers obviously inserted that for a reason.

This country has allowed the Constitution to be subverted for many years. They pick and choose which part of it supports their position and twist the meaning of the part that does not.


33 posted on 12/21/2015 7:22:29 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: driftdiver

“Rubio is an example of America. His parents came here for a better life.”

No he is not. Most of our parents, at this point in time, were born in America. The country was built with blood, sweat, and tears, not by immigrants.


34 posted on 12/21/2015 7:24:23 AM PST by odawg
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To: wintertime
The Constitution doesn't define the word “is”, either.

Or the word "the" either, but these are terms so generically used as to be unexceptionable.

"Natural born" is a term of legal art that had various shades of meaning at the time.

Original intent is particularly murky on this issue, given how contentious the debate was over the Alien and Sedition acts, and repeals, that occurred in the very first years of government under the Constitution.

35 posted on 12/21/2015 7:24:56 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Yes it would rule out Cruz. And Cruz’s father did not become a naturalized citizen until 2005 when Ted was in his thirties and deciding to become a president.


36 posted on 12/21/2015 7:26:38 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

No but we threw out the Constitutional meaning years ago. Whatever twisting it required to support “our” guy, being Rep or Dem.


37 posted on 12/21/2015 7:29:09 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: wintertime

So true.


38 posted on 12/21/2015 7:29:58 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47

Maybe it’s a ‘general’ cover, compliments of Gowdy?


39 posted on 12/21/2015 7:30:27 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Duchess47

The Constitution doesn’t define natural born American.


40 posted on 12/21/2015 7:34:28 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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